Upscaling especially ai assisted upscaling is a form of faking data that isn’t there.
Although the underlying technology is similar, AI upscaling is not a valuable propaganda tool, so is not in any way shape or form the same as AI “fakes”.
The intention with AI upscaling is to enhance existing detail and remove artefacts while increasing size and scale; not to create a completely new or false image that is different to the input source or changes its narrative. It’s closer to this, than it is to deep fakes or propaganda.
You’re not wrong. But that’s done by inferring what should be there. So it’s still going to appear to be faked, because in a very real sense it is faked. It’s faked within a narrow band of expectations, but it is faked. A better way to send out photos like this is to include the original and the enhanced version in the publication. To remove doubt
True. Upscaling is likely to always trigger a positive with any AI analysis tool, unless it has been calibrated to detect upscaling; including probably some reference to, or pre-processing of, the original image.
So yes… Honestly, including a visible disclaimer, and providing a reference to the original, should be a requirement for ANY digital image adjustment, in ANY work of non-fiction; including adjustments made in photoshop, like making a model skinnier or removing stretch marks. You shouldn’t be able to misrepresent reality to consumers without explicitly telling them it’s a misrepresentation.
Technically true, but I don’t think most people would consider upscaling as “faking” an image. However, given a poor quality source (and parameters), I’m sure some terrible “AI” upscalers could produce some kind of massively-modified abomination.
Edit: Taking a closer look, I think this image qualifies. Terribly done at every level, with extreme over-sharpening and hideous artifacts. SMFH.
You play with words to make seem as if upscaling takes Hamas dude from photo where he is pulling injured out of the crambled building and place him in private jet environment.
So even if upscaling “recalculate” most pixels it’s based on what is already in picture and doesn’t change the content or context of the pic. By that i mean information given to t he the viewer stay the same.
If we rely on computers and algorithms to maintain the intented interpretation of data we are setting ourselves up for confusion.
Showing the regular unenhanced data is key to credibility. Enhancing data, is just a fancy way of saying guessing what the data should look like, and there’s a range of valid guesses. Which puts it right up there with artistic interpretation, courtroom sketches, which have their places. And they should be labeled as such, they shouldn’t be called a photograph.
As much as i agree that link to the original is better and that verification is always required. There are these points that make this debate meaningless:
- This case was verified. We know where it came from how it looked like before.
- Verification is required regardless of apparent enchantment.
- AI can make picture avg Joe won’t be able to tell apart from “real” picture, there’s no point make it apparent like this.
Let me also point out that the idea of not relaying on computer for images processing is naive.
- Everyone would have to take pictures with classic mirror camera with film, make photos the old fashioned way in the lab and still photos could be doubted.
- Moment any photo gets digitalized all the analogue information in the pictures goes through computing algorithms.
- Scanned photos get distorted to fit binary representations and to compensate to scanner “flaws”.
- Most of today’s smartphone and cameras apply some sort of upscale, sharpening and other kind of filters to make their photos more attractive.
- Don’t let me start on comprehension or up-scaling to be able to render web fast enough and without over thousands of people’s bad connection.
Forbes really doesn’t want to report on Gaza.
The images went viral on Friday after they were published to X, formerly known as Twitter, by Hananya Naftali
This is the dude who deleted his tweet saying Israel bombed the hospital in Gaza because it was a Hamas headquarter. Pardon me if I do not really trust his word.
I honestly have no idea if he or the source is credible, but he did provide a source for the original photographs he used. There’s a link to it in the Forbes article.
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All media stopped being believable long time ago, even more now with AI. Being uninformed is somehow better now.
Let me guess, you’re American?
You guessed wrong. You have 2 more tries.
Canada
I wish, but no. Think souther.
Alright well I only have one guess left, there are quite a few countries south of Canada lmao. Im gonna stay northern hemisphere and saaaaayyy Mexico?
Yes 😂. Although I dont live there anymore.
I’ve always wanted to visit!
4x was a bit too aggressive I guess
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In 2007 there were no AI fakes worth mentioning . Enlargement or sharpening in amaterish way does NOT equal AI fake or faking content .
Also about every smart phone does upscaling and enchantment in some way by default . That would make most of the photos taken by smartphones fakes as well.
What are we even talking about?
As long as Israel continues to oppress Palestinians they will support whoever has the strength to fight back. Currently, that’s only really Hamas, so I don’t think these pics will change the mind of many people on the ground. Especially while they’re getting their houses and streets presently bombed by Israel…
For years Hamas was supported by key players in Israel. A strong Hamas helped to sow division in the Palestinian cause, undermining the two state solution.
They’re supporting their continued oppression.
Correct. But for the people who don’t support Hamas they’re not really getting anything either. They’re still getting their settlements taken over in the West Bank, continued oppression by drone and outside control, and achieving nothing. At least the supporters of Hamas are getting revenge, they’re getting a feeling of fighting back (and keep in mind the life expectancy of the place is low, Gaza is mostly children and teens, who everyone knows are dumb, emotional, and easy to control and abuse. Sorry teens, but it’s true, we’ve all been there.).
In order to undermine Hamas and prove revenge and shit isn’t needed, we’re going to need Israel to lift the boot a little, and then negotiate with someone who’s not Hamas, like the PLO, to achieve not just peace, but a peace without oppression. We’ve seen this everywhere, from the hood of the US, to the terrorists of the middle east, to the pirates of Somalia, or in the warlord children armies of Africa. People in terrible conditions will, under pressure, become terrible people to survive. Not everyone, but statistically, it happens enough we can’t be surprised at the outcome anymore.
Thats all fine and dandy but the conflict keeps both Israeli and Palestinian leadership in power. Bibi is the iron fisted wartime leader who reignites conflict whenever his support is slipping. Hamas is barely worse than he is. The PLO leadership is much the same. There won’t be any peace until the ones negotiating care more about peace than power.
