• phoneymouse@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Well that’s racist. Why is Israel meddling in our elections anyway? I seem to remember it being a big deal when Russia did a few years ago.

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      7 months ago

      Russia paid off one side, so only the other side complained.

      Israel pays off everyone except progressives (who won’t take it), and moderates/conservatives never give a shit if progressives complain about anything.

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      7 months ago

      Why is Israel meddling in our elections anyway?

      when haven’t they meddled? In any case, Tlaib is Palestinian-American, right? kinda goes without saying why they want her gone.

      Well, more specifically, because she’s pretty vocal about opposing the state of Israel.

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          Israel can fuck right off, right now, after breakfast, in the afternoon, this evening, tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, ten years from now and in the 26th century.

          They can fuck off and never, ever, fucking come back.

          In fact, Elon Musk is feverishly working on a geostationary orbital platform that beams images of Moses down to Tel Aviv to chide the Israelis and tell them that their new promised land is on Pluto, and that Israel is too infested with impure outsiders for them to safely remain there.

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      7 months ago

      It’s not Israel, it’s an American pro-Israel group which is a meaningful difference legally.

      And it’s not racist if they’re targeting her obvious and proud pro-Palestinian political opinions and policy objectives. Republicans are funding a candidate against the only Palestinian congress person too, that isn’t racist. They are against her policies.

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    7 months ago

    So, when the Democratic Party propped up Henry Cuellar, an anti-choice, pro-nra, anti-labor candidate in 2022, they insisted it was because he was the incumbent, and totally not because his opponent, Jessica Cisneros, was a progressive.

    EDIT: With the party’s help, Cuellar beat Cisneros in the primary by only 289 votes.

    I wonder if the party’s commitment to protecting incumbents is going to remain consistent, or if it their support for Cuellar was just an excuse to shut out progressives.

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      7 months ago

      Go post this in Politics@lemmy.world and see if you get banned. They really like banning nonconformists.

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    One cool thing about the progressive candidates in office. They had a harder time getting into office than anything lobbyists can throw at them now for the most part. It just makes them even more electable in their districts

    The foreign and domestic lobbyists (legal bribers) have a more difficult time reaching candidates in the justice party who refuse corporate pac money

    (It’s because all of their small donors are already voting for them, as opposed to some foreigner who can’t vote giving 20 million lol)

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    7 months ago

    It’s perfectly legal and normal for foreign governments to lobby in the United States, so long as you register via Foreign Agents Registration Act. Countries like Canada, South Korea, and Germany spend millions on US politics.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2018-08-17/biggest-spenders-of-foreign-lobbying-in-the-us-comes-from-americas-closest-allies

    If you think this practice is fucked, well I don’t disagree, but stop calling it “election interference” and comparing it to real rat-fuckery. I’d be amazed if Mossad wasn’t doing illegal shit to shape US policy (they’ve been caught spying many times), but this is the “legitimate” way to do things.

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      Other countries do, sure, but AIPAC isnt a country. It actually maintains that it is an American entity and not an Israeli one.

      This is why people want it labeled as ‘foreign’.

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      Oh you are right but it is still fucking annoying. I don’t want a government lobbying my government. I am willing to accept lobbying over stuff that doesn’t really matter like wanted a better trade deal or something, as a small evil not worth dealing with, I am not willing to accept this.

      You are allowed to have an opinion and vote accordingly. I don’t have to agree with you for me to not want your voice silenced with cash.

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      7 months ago

      Don’t they need to register as foreign agents (or something like that) nowadays if they’re lobbying in favour of a foreign nation, or was that stuff only ever “for some nations [China, Russia] not others [definitelly not Israel]”?!

      PS: Maybe it might’ve been the UK rather than US - I’m not sure anymore.