I’m sure they are working on a youtube messaging app behind the scenes.

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    finally

    This article is just a youtube premium ad 🤢

    As far as what you get when you go Premium, you won’t see any more ads within the app or the videos that you’re watching. Plus, you’ll gain access to background play, along with being able to download videos on the go. And perhaps what makes this plan even more worthwhile is that you get access to YouTube Music, which features over 100 million commercial free songs. Now, the one drawback is that these features don’t come for free, with a subscription costing $13.99 per month in the US.

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        YouTube is testing a feature where it’ll pop up a button to intelligently skip ahead if you skip once, or so I’ve heard.

        That sounds a lot like sponsorblock.

        Though it won’t be fully automatic.

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        I have premium and SponsorBlock. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing.

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            I use uYouEnhanced on iOS. Also the actual SponsorBlock extension on Safari.

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      I would gladly pay for Premium if it actually gave you a decent user experience but it doesn’t.

      I use 3rd party apps because they don’t fill my feed with garbage content. They just show me what I ask for.

      Not to mention apps like GrayJay that integrate content from other sources in the same app.

      Or that it YouTube does nothing about creators filling content with their own ads.

      I was really interested in Nebula before I glanced at their privacy policy and realized that it has all the same data-mining and selling as every other modern web service.

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    If they hadn’t gotten so obnoxious with ads that it was impossible to use YouTube without blocking them, I wouldn’t have used the vanced/revanced stuff in the first place.

    They find a way to prevent using those, I’m out totally, including on the few devices I didn’t care about playing the ads because it was just background noise.

    Oh well

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      I even had Youtube premium for a bit. Revanced is nice just to dial back some of the bells and whistles that isn’t relevant to the video platform. The official app feels clunky.

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        I had YouTube Premium after Vanced was killed. I gave it a fair go. No ads- great, it is now back to how it was a decade ago. But also no SponsorBlock - and my God, how many channels I realised I couldn’t listen to anymore when 50% of every video was an ad for one of three online services or games I’m definitely not going to ever pay for. So now I just… don’t watch YouTube on my phone. Hurray?

        Seriously, if the ads are supposedly worth €15 a month, pay the fucking YouTubers enough that I don’t have to listen to a linguist try to sell me WarThunder

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          I know, right? So many creators even explain why they do that, it’s because they can’t make enough from youtube to do this full time, but they can from raid shadow legends.

          YouTube premium would be worth something if all the creativity their creators have to use to make a living despite the pay was used for better content.

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          I still think premium should allow you to block sponsors. YT should make them be sections that are removable.

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        Id really like to use revanced while paying for premium if it means it doesn’t get borked every x months and I don’t risk getting banned, kind of like Spotify tolerates 3rd party clients as long as they are premium accounts

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        yeah I use revanced + YT premium for sponsor block. Haven’t experienced any issues yet though

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      Wouldn’t mind the ads if they weren’t deliberately twice as loud as the music! That’s just fucking rude

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    I have YouTube Premium but I have to use ReVanced to block shorts because it’s terrible for my ADHD. My mental health has improved ever since I ripped that fucker out of my life.

    I want to control what I see, and this isn’t even about them being paid anymore, it’s just about forcing me to see what I don’t want to see.

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    Good luck YouTube

    The official YouTube app will provide one of the better experiences…

    Ha ha ha ha… the author must be dreaming or hasn’t tried many other apps. NewPipe lets you run videos at custom speed, and optionally pitch-shift videos. And you can save videos to watch on any app capable of playing video files stored on disk.

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      Agreed… The second half of this “article” reads like an ad/puff piece.

      A better researched article would go into the difference between API access, scrapers, and modifying the YouTube app, and question which of those YouTube will be able to detect. Maybe even discuss using region-pricing with a VPN to get YouTube premium for cheaper.

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    If they manage to break third-party applications, and they cannot be repaired, then I am totally just leaving YouTube entirely. It’s not worth it at that point.

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      My third oarty app stopped working recently, went back to old youtube for my morning shit. Ruined my poo, absolutely not ever going back. Got my app back but grabbed a nebula sub and downloaded a few other options. Fuck youtube.

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    Interesting, I guess we will have to see how quickly and widely this is enforced. I haven’t used the official YouTube app for a very long time and have relied heavily on third party alternatives (Vanced/ReVanced, NewPipe, LibreTube, Grayjay). There is absolutely no way I am paying $17 a month for YouTube so I think a family plan would probably be the best option, though at this point I think I’d be more likely to just abandon the platform altogether.

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    I don’t think YouTube understands a lot of our willpower to just close their app the second an ad appears.

    If there isn’t a way to watch without ads, then I’m just going to download videos and watch them instead.

    If they stop that from working, I’ll figure something else out, do we need to get the shaky movie theater camcorder people to start recording their YT premium videos now too?

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    I quit when they took away the dislike counter, so many said they would but didn’t. All I ever see about Youtube is people complaining about their new shitty tactics… just leave, it’'s the ONLY way to get any changes. They will never change if people keep using the platform.

    Suck it up, leave, you won’t regret it.

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        You’re not going to find everything you want outside of YouTube just yet. But apps like GrayJay make it a lot easier to start transitioning to other platforms.

        It combines most all of the video sharing platforms in one. From there you can start following creators if they have their channel setup on different platforms while still being able to keep your main home feed coming from YouTube if you wanted to.

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      How did you quit? Is there any other video platform?

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    I use the official YouTube app with premium. But, it glitches and reloads on its own after a while. Not to mention the UI frame rate getting capped to the video frame rate when playing a video.

    3rd party apps let me download and browse the videos in a better way and I can also download them in 4k resolution in HDR format.

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    @Wahots guess they’ll do just like they did with ublock origin ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯.

    <details class=“spoiler”><summary>Reveal/hide</summary>I still use ublock origin without an issue</details>

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    If my 3rd party app is broken to the point theh can’t bring it back, I would like to say I’d drop YouTube like a sack of moldy tangerines. But I really don’t know what I’d do without it. I use it about 8hrs a day.

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      People really need to just stfu about a certain other app. If ya know, ya know. Otherwise stop advertising it you morons…When you mention YT and IMMEDIATELY bring THAT up publicly, you’re not helping anyone.

      Do you really think that Google is only going to take down an app or adjust the API based on some comments, posts, articles?

      “Yo, Neal, did you see what that one person on Lemmy said? We gotta crack down on this API to fix that.”

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          I seriously doubt banning the entirety of… non-conforming third party app users is something they would loose sleep over if it means stopping that in its tracks.

          They would do it happily.

          I know, API, Spoofing, Ect. I know. You’ve more faith in that than myself. To actually believe there isn’t anything they can do to go the extra mile and end it, seems extremely nieve imo.

          You’re not quite getting what I’m saying. I think they absolutely would/will crack down on this, but they’re going to do that regardless of what we say here. I don’t think our comments are going to push them into doing it faster, and us not saying anything is going to make them go slower. With the resources/money/monitoring/tech/etc they have, they are well aware of all these tools before most users of them are. Us saying nothing is not keeping a secret, nor is it guiding their actions. You give our comments too much weight, and much more than they will, if they even think of us.

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      If you know about it, google knows too. They have an army of lawyers, they can easily find YouTube 3rd party clients.