Did people call RCS open source? I’m not a huge follower of the standard, but I don’t think I ever heard that said. In fact, I’ve heard people complain about not just the proprietary encryption but lack of E2E and carrier/Google control.
Its only advantages are that it is better than SMS and supported by the carriers, Google and Apple sometime this year.
It’s a shitty standard but given how shitty SMS is, I’m willing to hold my nose and jump in.
yes sorry when i called it “open source” that was an overstatement that others have since corrected
“open standard” is correct—nevertheless doesn’t excuse google’s deceptive marketing to force this as industry standard instead of investing in something actually open source and aproprietary
Any tool that calls itself “open source” and uses proprietary encryption that they refuse to let any neutral third party review, should absolutely not be trusted.
It’s open standard, not open source
Too many people misunderstand open source and free to use.
So can I write my own implementation and talk to other people via rcs? If not, then I don’t think it deserves being called an open standard
but we need to trust them that the standard is actually implemented
Yep. Which is why FOSS development and support of FOSS developers is so important
The definition of words are indeed, critical 👍
Wonder if maybe there could be some organization that could fill that need. Independent, or a collection of industry vets, who look through the code and say if it’s safe or not. With the assumption details won’t be leaked or something to protect anything actually proprietary?
there could but it would take cash
or one could make it truly open source for free
-switches to signal or Matrix-
XMPP is better despite it’s flaws privacy-wise, since so much data gets “hogged back” to matrix.org (tbf it’s a similar case with lemmy.world but Lemmy at least didn’t receive funding from a company most likely linked to Mosad). Also has more lightweight servers in general.
what data gets hogged back? most stuff can be turned off and are features that would be missing anyway from xmpp, like identity servers or integrations server. also you can selfhost your identity server and add integrations manually
Isn’t like the entire point of Matrix that it’s end to end encrypted, thus rendering any data servers acquire useless?
You could make the metadata argument, but having one node aware of even most transactions is better than having one node aware of all of them.
disclaimer: i barely know what im talking about here so if any of the language in this post is inaccurate feel free to reach out
Rcs isn’t a open source but an open standard. Two very different things.
Open standard: anyone can use the standard but could be proprietary/closed source
Open source: anyone can edit/review the code and forket it if they want to.
The issue with RCS currently is that Google won’t release the API for it on android and only allows Samsung to use it for their app. Another part is that their encryption is based on signal and released a white paper about it.
Now it’s understandable why people would distrust Google. But apple is currently trying to add e2ee to the open standard (google also tried in the past but failed).
Mind you the only reason apple is even implementing RCS is because China is forcing them to. Since any new 5g devices must support rcs to be certified in china.
I hope this helps. Also have a android turtle from the blob!
this true, ty for the clarification
ill leave the meme as is (in quotes) since that was the thrust of the propaganda i saw 18 months ago
seems like a term that is intentionally thrown around to make things sound secure and cool when it’s not.
Np hope you have a great day!
It’s correct, although I’m surprised that there isn’t even a FOSS implementation of the unencrypted part.
Hopefully you made this in GIMP
impgflip.com, with full love to the community GIMP is ass at making memes
This meme is just two images and some text, no offense but you could make this using only ffmpeg if you were sufficiently masochistic
“What photo editing app do you use? Photoshop? GIMP? MS Paint?”
“ffmpeg.”
“All hail technomancer Joe, wielder of ffmpeg!”
yeah i could use a hex editor if i wanted but turns out the fasted app workflow is often the best
“Fastest workflow” has no bearing here, nobody gives a shit if a task takes exponential time or linear time when the total time is less than three seconds in both cases. You are acting like you are some prodigal graphics designer when the task at hand is the computer artist equivalent of banging two rocks together.
bro ur getting so antagonistic and for what 😭
imgflip is purpose-built for the process i am taking. GIMP takes more than 3 seconds to boot up on my device. there is no competition. stop with the toxic behavior and insults. this was a joke. you make the internet miserable.
yeah I got carried away lmao
I couldn’t do this in three seconds even with imgflip. I’d say a minute using normal tools, and probably 20 seconds with imgflip.
The
whatsappsignal image editor is the best meme creating toolMy preferred is Algodoo, a physics sandbox
I’m not sure I understand it fully either, but what I do know about this topic is certainly disappointing
Typical Google fuckery
“Android is open source”
puts kilos worth of proprietary software into it, so people can still be tracked
blessed be the lineageos
So it isn’t locked down on Google-approved devices?
No one thought rcs was foss or anything near it.
The whole discussion was on iphones being able to talk normally with androids. That’s it
