• FriendlyBeagleDog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    Subscription-based models are a plague, but at least Jetbrains products eventually offer a perpetual fallback license for if you stop paying.

    It’s absurd that Adobe can just take tools you might depend on away after years of paying the subscription.

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      The basic software like the Intellij Community Edition is also fully open source. (And it’s not actually basic at all. It’s a great full featured IDE)

      Basically you’re only paying for their support/updates and for specific language and toolkit support, which makes sense to me. They need to pay their staff somehow.

      It’s not comparable to Adobe or other crappy manufacturers where you own nothing.

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        If you stop the subscription, you don’t get upgrades. But you keep whatever the last version you had, it’s not locked out by a license check.

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          That’s good, I think that’s a much better and fairer model than being locked out completely of a thing that you did pay for.

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    JetBrains might not be my friend but they don’t hold anywhere near the dev tool monopoly Adobe does for artists. Know what happens if JetBrains starts to blow massive ass? I finally sit down and figure out how to get my terminal editor working with my LSP. Yeah I lose some productivity but not as much as I’d lose by using Visual Studio or fuckn Eclipse.

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      I think another key difference is everyone can use whatever tool they like and still work on the same codebase. They don’t have proprietary file formats that lock in you and your entire team forever.

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      Also, doesn’t the jetbrains license let you continue to use the version that was the latest as of when your license ended. It’s a small difference, but also kinda huge.

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        No. I know this because a couple of times my license expired, and 30 days before it does you’ll just get a little warning in the IDE - or in tools like Resharper. After that it just stops working.

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        Iy used to he that, but they’re pushing the new subscription model now and i don’t think the old one can still be purchased.

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      If you are interested there is a great repo to get you up an running on neovim without messing with anything. I got LSP support out of the box and took me less than a week to fully transition away from vscode. It’s called kickstart and is maintained by one the neovim contributors. I’ve done minimal tweaking months later.