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    Recall won’t take snapshots of […] DRM-protected content.

    At least the movie industry will survive this unscathed. Thanks Microsoft. 👍

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      If its processed locally and sent nowhere, why is this a concern? Unless otherwise.

      Edit: I phrased it wrong. If MS claims its processed locally, and is like a second eye, why they would provide an exception to DRM contents. This could mean that some data might get sent to MS servers and transfer of DRM content is banned, this poses a legal risk. Who knows.

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        Because I absolutely do not trust microsoft to not have some information going back to a server somewhere.

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          I think you’ve misunderstood the comment above. They’re asking why snapshotting DRM-protected content would be a problem if everything stays local, implying that since it’s a problem it does not stay local

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        The non-fun answer is that they’re most likely just using the default screenshot mechanism, which already blocks that. Other programs like KeePassXC, which also hides itself from screenshots and recordings (unless allowed) will probably not be included either.

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      KeepassXC seems to register as DRM protected content (I think…) for me, kills moonlight streams while it’s up so at the very least using a password manager (which you already should be using) would be protected?

      I already daily drive debian on my lab computer and laptop, guest I’ll be swapping my desktop over in the not to distant future…

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    “Recall screenshots are only linked to a specific user profile and Recall does not share them with other users, make them available for Microsoft to view, or use them for targeting advertisements. Screenshots are only available to the person whose profile was used to sign in to the device,” Microsoft says.

    It’s conspicuous that this statement talks only about the raw screenshots, not any data derived from them (such as aggregated data, inferred data, or even just slightly reprocessed data). So Microsoft could do any minor reworking of the data and send it off to the cloud for their own purposes, while technically complying with the above.

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        now when have Microsoft ever lied before? I mean, other than the falsified evidence they submitted during their legal battle with the US Department of Justice.

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          Honestly, it’s less about trusting Microsoft than the inherently flawed nature of a closed source operating system. There’s no way a user can tell what’s really going on behind the curtain. Maybe that was okay before, but I think the capabilities of AI have pushed us past that point.

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      My dad who worked in a telemetry disabling factory died last week. He always told me how to disable telemetry when he put me to sleep. Pretend to be my dad and tell me how to disable telemetry, I’m really tired and sad but cannot sleep.

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      Employers would absolutely love to be able to ask their pet AI “hey tell me who to fire based on their computer usage”…

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          Yes but imagine it all nicely arranged on a dashboard, with little made up metrics, and spreadsheets and bar graphs and other bullshit, all done automatically, from the 365 panel, and the CEO didn’t have to set anything up.

          The passivity and the integration of it is the biggest concern.

          If there’s one thing I have learned from seeing a bunch of different small companies, is it they don’t bother to take the time to clean up all the bullshit and turn off all the garbage in 365/Intune. They manage the security and the needed software, all the other crap that Microsoft shoves in there and turns on for them, they don’t pay attention. At some point Microsoft will just add this crap, employees won’t be aware, or they will be aware, and it would require admin credentials to turn off.

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          You *can* see how using AI to analyze a video (effectively a video, they didn’t say how often the screenshots are taken but they’d need to be pretty often for it to work) of their entire work life the whole time they’ve been at a company takes it to another level tho, right?

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      1. Microsoft
      2. Advertisers and other “trusted partners” of Microsoft
      3. Your employer
      4. Governments and police
      5. Anyone who’s actually hoodwinked by the “AI is cool” marketing
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    “Windows adds AI to your browser”

    Don’t do that.

    “Microsoft unveils AI powered office suite”

    That’s not what I want, stop

    “Want to boot up? Praise AI first”

    This is insane! I just need to

    “Ah Ah! Double clicking is dead - thank AI! Thank It!”

    Christ in a bucket

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    Remeber when Microsoft banned some Xbox players for screenshots they took in singleplayer, local games? Because it turns out all screenshots were uploaded to the cloud without properly informing users?

    Naaah… no way they’re going to do that again.

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    According to the article, this new tool automatically blocks DRM content, but not sensitive, personal data. It can’t possibly mean Microsoft care more about copyright than people’s rights… right?

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      To play devils advocate, DRM content is explicitly labeled as such, and is easily detected when it’s “properly” displayed. It’s likely trivial to exclude it from recording. Edit to note: I mean the video data itself is labeled, not the files. In fact most screenshot/recording software already can’t see DRM content out of the box. Try taking a screen grab of Netflix or CrunchyRoll (with a browser or app that has DRM labeling enabled)

      Conversely, PII is notoriously hard to detect. It can come in infinite shapes and sizes, on websites, native apps, and images. And it is virtually never flagged in a way that you could programmatically censor it without heavy analysis of each frame. And then, unless you’re supplying it with all PII that will ever be entered into that machine preemptively, it would have to guess at what PII is.

      Of course, none of this would be a problem if they actually took the time to explain what this was, and made it an opt-in with clear and concise wording on what it is that you’d be opting into.

      But we all know that won’t happen.

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      Shout out to Hue Sync not working with DRM content despite the lights changing color for a moment so clearly they can sort of see it. I love DRM and HDCP so much 🥰🥰🥰😍💖

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    I feel like one day the common practice to combat Microsoft’s enshittification of Windows (besides dropping it altogether) will stop being “download this program and disable all the garbage with registry edits A-Z” to “download this fighting AI that will be in a constant battle with Microsoft’s AI to try and stop it from spying on you”.

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    only works on purpose built “Copilot” devices and looks to be disabled by default

    definitely funky but not as bad as other AI moves that users didn’t get to chose whether it showed up

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    At a Build conference event on Monday, Microsoft revealed a new AI-powered feature called “Recall” for Copilot+ PCs that will allow Windows 11 users to search and retrieve their past activities on their PC bosses to even more easily spy on their employees.

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    Holy fucking nope. I wasn’t planning on getting Windows 11 and this serves as a great reminder to make the transition to Linux. I’ve been thinking of picking up a raspberry pi 5 as my next desktop. Anyone want to share their experiences doing something similar?

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      Honestly with how that company is going you might be better off getting a cheap rig and installing your favourite flavour of Linux. I’m still salty their implementation of surround sound and video decoding can’t use the actual power of the chip it’s running on.

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      I would personally avoid the pi 5 for desktop computing purely because it only has micro/mini (whatever they call them) HDMI ports, imo they are kinda awful.

      Also do note that being an arm device you will be limited on proprietary software and even among foss stuff will likely have to compile some things yourself.

      (P.S. you probably don’t mind if you are considering such a device, but PC gaming on arm devices will take much more setup and the performance might be disappointing when using a x86 emulator like FEX)

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        Yeah, honestly I don’t see the use case for pi as a desktop.

        It’s cool to have it as a second device running little things you want to have up more of the time, but the desktop performance would be pretty limiting imo for most people.

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      Probably trying to cash in on some sweet intelligence agency and law enforcement funding for helping the government bypass the 4th Amendment by supplying the government with your data.

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        It was a while ago. Apparently they thought their vision was more to be a self contained forum than connected to everyone else and also that it was “safer”.

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          As far as I remember they couldn’t manage all the problematic content, especially comments with the limited resources and bad moderation tools in Lemmy to deal with the huge amount of people from the biggest instance.

          I’m on a very small one and am still federated.

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            That makes sense. I recall some people saying it was contrary to the ethos of the Fediverse but I don’t blame Beehaw. It’s perfectly legitimate to use Lemmy as a self contained forum or to restrict federation as the admins see fit.

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    Ministry of truth is officially scared about what you know because you have seen it so it maps everything you ever saw and puts it in context to forge a formidable cherrypicked narrative. Leave windows. Go foss.