Counterpoint: KDE is literally the best to ever do it and none even compare
do what? look good while it chokes on itself? because i’d say unity did that even better.
Be the most versatile and usable DE with the best applications
Also works on my machine (14 year old thinkpad)
You’re running a t410??
that’s amazing that it’s still usable today after 14 years, gives me hope that I can keep my t430 running until a similarly good device appears on the market
A t420, but yes
It’s not my main machine but it is my only laptop, and sticking an extra 8gb of ram and an ssd in it was all it needed to become very responsive even for modern software. Unless you’re playing video games or doing some heavyweight media editing projects, those older CPUs and GPUs can cope better than one might expect
Eyy a fellow t420 user in the wild! There is the rare game that can be played on it, I once survived off of Minecraft and holocure when my desktop’s motherboard decided “no” and it was my only machine until I could get a replacement
versatile
sure. idk about “the most”, i haven’t seen it do anything that other DMs can’t do with some tinkering. hell just installing cairo-dock yields a very similar ui experience imo.
usable
i can’t agree, my experience is things not staying where i put them, random crashes, layout and themes not “sticking” between logins, and occasionally the entire session crashing - all this from a fresh install on an untinkered-with system, and it’s been a consistent experience through the years. maybe you’re luckier than i am?
best applications
i never met an application i wanted to run that i couldn’t because i had the wrong DE. what are you talking about?
No I think KDE is the best de out there fight me.
Same
Never had a problem with KDE. Are you sure you aren’t using KDE 4.0?
i’ve had problems with every version i’ve installed on every distro i’ve installed it on since the mid '00s when i started using linux
Man, I don’t understand this sentiment at all. I don’t know what would be different from my setups, but KDE has always been rock solid for me. Back when I used it on Mandrake Linux and today.
OP, might you be an Arch user?
I’m using KDE on Arch, no problems here.
i usually stick to debian flavors, i haven’t had good experiences with arch
I’m sorry, but KDE apps are literally the ugliest things on the planet. I really like how many features KDE has, but I just can’t switch due to the looks
I like how the KDE apps look on the plasma desktop. I hate how they look everywhere else.
qt allows for theming
Yeah, I never got into it; the look just doesn’t work for me, even with theming.
Hard disagree. My desktop is as stable as it’s pretty and I find it really good that both me and a friend of mine that uses KDE have very different workflows that KDE is able to adapt to. I am quite the fanboy of KDE tbh. It never failed me and is s dream to use everytime I turn on my PC
see i hear things like this but when i install it’s basically the same resource-hungry unstable mess as it was the first time i checked it out over a decade ago. i figured maybe it’s me and tried some distros that come with it preinstalled and it’s not any different. are you running a supercomputer or what?
I am running it on a modern laptop the distro is nobara
I was running xfce for a while on my old laptop with only 8 GB of ram. Thinking that it was the least resource usage DE. (Which i think it still is but i havent tested in a bit).
Then i got a new pc and tried kde and to my amazment it used just a tiny bit more resources than xfce did on my old laptop. I then installed kde on that old pc and it ran perfectly well. kde had a lot more QOL compared to xfce in my opionion, with none of the jank.
Its intersting how much different our experiences are.
What would you recomend for a DE?
KDE is buttery smooth (165Hz, no stutters ever) for me and kwin is a much nicer compositor than mutter.
6.1 promises to fix some of that jank. I’m a few changes away from switching over.
been waiting over a decade, still janky. don’t hold your breath.
Sounds like a you problem, aka skill issue.
idk man, when the distro has kde out of the box and it’s still a dumpster fire from the first boot idk how that’s on me
Ah, a bleeding edge user who mistakes “nightly” with "stable.
nice assumption. i’m a brokeass who typically runs hand-me-down hardware, stable all day.
also that copyright license is hilarious, you know it’s the neckbeard equivalent of posting “i do not consent to my data being collected” as your fb status right? or are you going to take a giant company to court for copying your nerd insult from lemmy?
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That is not a KDE issue.
desktop edit mode is so fun though
Used to crash a lot for me prior to 5.24 on Wayland, but now on 6.0 I’m dailing it. Full screen tearing works on Wayland as well so it’s suitable for gaming now
It’s the definition of “customization for customizations sake”. It’s ok if you like that, just not for me
I love how it works, I hate how careless they handle user data. I don’t trust kdewallet because it forgot my wifi passwords multiple times, suddenly demanded a password for a passwordless wallet, or lost the wallet alltogether. I lost tons of old emails when kmail switched to akonadi storage instead of plain mail folders. And why did they change my desktop background after an update? Can’t they just respect my settings and stuff a little bit -.-
KDE X11 is also quite janky for me. KDE with Wayland is pretty smooth. I’m using Fedora 40 btw so no idea if that is because Wayland is the new default when using the KDE spin.
