• FireRetardant@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    18 days ago

    Lowering speeds is probably the most effective recomendation in the article.

    Instead of fresh paint, I’d recomend redesigning the crosswalks entirely. Narrow the car lanes as they approach the crossings, and raise the crossing with a speed hump. Provide a pedestrian island in the center so pedestrians can focus on one direction of traffic at a time.

    • John_McMurray@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      18 days ago

      Nah. Pedestrian education. You’re not supposed to walk in front of moving cars. Signal your intent and then proceed when safe, vs just walk out from between a couple parked cars.

      • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        18 days ago

        Seems a lot harder to educate anyone who might use the crosswalk, including tourists or people from out of town, than it is to just build a safer crosswalk.

        With driver education we could just get rid of road signs, lines on the road and traffic lights right? Cause education is such a good replacement for functional infrastructure.

        • Auli@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          17 days ago

          I mean we where taught when going to go to the corner stick your arm out to show unintended to cross. How many people do that?

      • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        18 days ago

        Slower speed limits are shown to reduce injuries and deaths to people both within and outside of cars, at a greater rate than “pedestrian education” ever will. Source

        Braking distances are proportional to the square of the speed for most cars. The available reaction times around corners or after unexpected events are much shorter at high speed.

        High speed limits in the city don’t really improve your travel times that much, when you have to stop at lights every few intersections anyway.

        You can hear Jason on Not Just Bikes talk about this for 20 minutes if you want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRbnBc-97Ps

      • CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        18 days ago

        beating that drum will never save anyone.

        Its just as effective as saying “well, just drive safer”.

        What we need is proper, safety oriented infrastructure. this includes narrowing travel lanes, raised speed humps, minimizing crossing distances, improving lines of sight,