• it_depends_man@lemmy.worldEnglish
        681·
        9 days ago

        The show runner insisted on telling “their version of the story”.

        Which… let’s put it like this:

        If you’re making a TV series about a book series written by a world famous author, and you think you can do a variation / “your take” on the story, because you think you’re just that great of a writer, artist, director, etc., then you better actually be on his level.

        • GraniteM@lemmy.world
          22·
          9 days ago

          Say, for example, Kubrick and The Shining or Ridley Scott and Blade Runner or Jackson and The Lord of the Rings, as opposed to Shyamalan and The Last Airbender or Jackson and The Hobbit.

          • CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com
            24·
            9 days ago

            The Hobbit wasn’t Jackson’s fault. The studio was going to make the movies in that time frame with or without Peter Jackson, so he chose to helm the crashing ship.

            • Glemek@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4·
              7 days ago

              And without him they were threatening to have the production leave NZ, which would’ve put a bunch of his friends out of the job.

            • GraniteM@lemmy.world
              9·
              9 days ago

              It’s true, that wasn’t an entirely fair comparison, but I was thinking about disastrous adaptations, and that one sprang to mind.

  • Fades@lemmy.world
    61·
    9 days ago

    The Witcher had so much damn potential, I absolutely loved the casting all around not just him (yen was mid tho)

    I’m still salty

    • Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      323·
      9 days ago

      Both Yemefer and Triss were poor choices in my opinion. But I would have watched it regardless if there was anything of substance to watch after the first season.

  • Margot Robbie@lemmy.world
    522·
    9 days ago

    That’s the reason most big name actors have their own production companies to work on their own movies, you have way more control over your own role compared to being just another actor on set.

    In any case, I think the audience still recognize great performances by individual actors even if the end product is badly reviewed or didn’t do well at the box office, and there are lessons to be learned from the “Suicide Squad” and “Amsterdam” and “Babylon” until you finally get a “Barbie” against all expectations.

    I hope he finds his own “Barbie” too.

    • ours@lemmy.worldEnglish
      37·
      9 days ago

      And hopefully his “Barbie” is the Warhammer project he’s trying to get off the ground.

      That has the potential to be so much fun if done properly.

      • nyctre@lemmy.world
        111·
        9 days ago

        Iirc, he negociated to have executive producer role for the thing, so that should help.

  • Inspectigator@lemmy.world
    45·
    9 days ago

    I deeply wish The Man From Uncle kept going. Sure the whole Armor Hammer thing was pretty unfortunate, but geeze is that movie (and soundtrack) a fun watch

    • ours@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      9 days ago

      “Spectre” came out the same year. Man from UNCLE was by far the superior spy flic.

      • pyrflie@lemm.ee
        5·
        9 days ago

        Sorry, Hollywood doesn’t make fun spy movies anymore.

        Much as we want them.

    • Subtracty@lemmy.world
      8·
      9 days ago

      They should absolutely recast Army Hammer with someone else and make another movie. The Man from UNCLE had too much going for it to fall into obscurity because just one of it’s stars was a cannibal.

        • androogee (they/she)@midwest.socialEnglish
          5·
          9 days ago

          *Cannibalism fetishist

          I get that is not a meaningful distinction for some people, but it’s a pretty huge one lmao

          He wasn’t actually eating anyone (as far as we know) just jerking off and writing fanfiction about it or whatever.

          Also accused of rape & physical abuse, which is a way bigger deal, but less attention grabbing

    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
      4·
      9 days ago

      Apple should have made a spiritual successor to the Man from UNCLE instead of Argyle. They could have even used the same cast, so Henry Cavill, Jon Cena, Sam Rockwell and Bryce Dallas Howard as the spy team. And Bryan Cranston as the bad guy and Sam Jackson as a cameo. It would have been a better movie than Argyle simply for the fact that it would have been a straight forward spy film instead of a “clever” story with a twist. Argyle had potential but couldn’t deliver after the first act since they wrote themselves into a corner with the dumb amnesia plot device.

  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
    46·
    9 days ago

    Sounds to me like he should be given veto power in projects he gets hired on to. I didn’t mind the Witcher because I hadn’t gotten very far into the lore myself and didn’t see how much it had gone off the original path, but I’m kinda tired of producers and directors taking an existing story but then changing huge parts of it.

    There’s nothing wrong with telling your own story but enough with the bait and switch ones. Give it your own name, don’t leech off of the name recognition of already loved stories.

    • proudblond@lemmy.worldEnglish
      20·
      9 days ago

      I personally am not a rabid Witcher book fan — I swear, some folks think they are the best literature out there and they very much are not — but in their quest to make Yennefer a more fleshed out character, they screwed up her motivations and priorities. She’s supposed to be like a mother to Ciri. I did not watch season 3 but it was not looking good for their relationship at the end of season 2.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
        15·
        9 days ago

        They did try to fix the Yennefer/Ciri relationship in S3.

        But it suffers from the same problem with the other seasons where the writers are too busy trying to be clever to just tell the story. Like they show a party where a bunch of random shit happens then they later show a bunch of flashbacks to explain what the hell happened. You can imagine them all congratulating themselves in the writer’s room on how brilliant they are to come with telling it that way.

        They introduced a new character who’s either a bad actress or poorly directed. Or both. There’s one scene where she’s holding a dead pheasant and I’m not sure if she was posing or waiting for the director to say “cut”. Either way it’s awkward and cringey as hell.

      • fadedmaster@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        6·
        9 days ago

        I stopped at the same point and for the same reason. Season 2 Yennifer didn’t even seem congruent with Season 1 Yennifer.

        • AEsheron@lemmy.world
          8·
          9 days ago

          I think I see the direction they wanted to go. Show that she’s still obsessed and starting to fray at the edges, but then give her a redemption when she realizes she doesn’t need a biological child when she has Ciri right there as a daughter. It’s just that every show like this seeks to have to be CW’ed these days. It’s a big reason why I had to drop Supernatural too. It worked really well for 5 seasons. But after that, the 3rd time the brothers fought about X and the 6th time they kept Y secret, I realized there was never going to be any development past this and had to step away. It’s exhausting.

    • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      21·
      9 days ago

      I dont mind changing the original story if done well. Some things only work in one medium or sometimes the adaptatipn just does things better. Good example is the boys. The comic is an absolute cringe fest while the shows is really good.

  • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
    31·
    9 days ago

    Maybe he’ll produce his own thing based on one of his favourite IPs one day.

    EDIT: or today as he’s executive producer on the new Warhammer 40k stuff from Amazon!

  • Smoogs@lemmy.world
    4·
    8 days ago

    He didn’t leave though. he was unceremoniously dropped as is usually what happens in ‘corporate crossfire’ which only adds to the meme as he manages to get back up and sell out another show each and every time Disney and Netflix shits the bed. Which just goes to show you who the real problem with their own products is.

  • verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works
    5·
    9 days ago

    The only way to win is to sit down in that producer role, raise a fargton of money for your idea and teach others to bring your idea to life. You have to UNTEACH them all the Marvel/Disney way of boring, politically correct pandering to the lowest denominator. I’m only sad that this means Cavill will have less time for acting.

  • rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de
    49·
    9 days ago

    I am here for the Henry Cavill circlejerk. Did you know he is a gamer? He even built his PC! Dude I love Henry now! Henry good, everyone else bad.