• ladicius@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I like this new feature very much - the lid no longer has to be held in the other hand or such but simply stays where it is needed.

    People who are not able to perform most simple tasks like turning the lid a little sideways should be exempted from elections.

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      Yeah, turning it a bit to the side is no big deal.

      However, I recently found out that this makes drinking things a little more viscous absolutely impossible without messing up your shit.

      I drank a Kefir, which you normally shake before drinking. So there is a lot of it clinging to the inside of the cap for dear life - up until to that very moment you take a sip. Then, it decides that it had enough and spills on your clothes, face, shoes - whatever the fuck it can possibly get to.

      So either you need a glass, let it sit until the cap is mostly empty or lick that cap and look like a complete degenerate.

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        I will be going to the store later to buy kefir and relive your experience so I can better judge its validity

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            So, it took me embarrassingly many shopping trips to remember to buy kefir. But I finally did. For reference, I chose Andechser Bio Kefir. But to be honest I didn’t find the lid dripping. I shook before I opened and it was still fine. Repeated that a couple of times. Decided to leave some for the next day, maybe the consistency would change after opening. Still fine. Then I decided to let it warm to room temperature and still no dripping.

            So unfortunately I cannot reproduce the scientific findings of @frosch.

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            It’s been 8 hours. Either they ded. Or are too ashamed and embarrassed after getting covered in their drink.

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              I’m just too ashamed to admit that I went to the store to buy kefir like 5 times and each time bought half of the supermarket’s inventory but not kefir.

              I finally did though. Cannot confirm the dripping, see comment above.

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      I realized how good thing this was when I wanted to drink while carrying luggage. Converted me from a hater to a slightly less hater.

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      It just seems absolutely useless. I also wouldn’t want my cheek to get a stray drop of soda on it. I imaging most people just tear it off.

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      6 days ago

      Hold up. You can’t hold the lid in the same hand you hold the bottle with and still feel eligible to vote?

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      Maybe people who can’t keep track of a bottle cap for the few seconds it takes to sip a little bit should be exempted from elections too?

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    So okay the bottle ones like this are fine

    It is these fuckers I have an issue with

    I swear if I ever see the person who designed the new milk cap I will make them choke on a fucking tetrapak.

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    Having been on holiday at a place with a beach recently and seeing how much plastic crap gets washed ashore and how much of that crap is bottle lids, I’m actually pretty okay with this change.

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    If you are able to open the cap to begin with, you’re capable of twisting it and tearing it off. It’s not that hard. I never understood the “controversy” when these were introduced, and I’m convinced that the ones too inept to take it off completely are the same ones who caused the caps to end up in the wrong place to begin with.

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      Uuuuuh never taken the cap off, but I also stopped losing the cap after putting it down 5 seconds ago to pour myself a glass of soda 🤷

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        Come on grandma, we’ve told you you can’t take your memory meds with soda, it’s bad for you. Here, have this glass of water…

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    Rip that shit right off! Isn’t it necessary to separately dispose the cap and bottle anyway because they are different plastics?

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      No, you dont. Its both plastic so both go in plastics :')
      Which is why a new law was passed to make the top not easily removable so both are disposed together and (depending on the design) reused

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        Just a reminder that recycling is a lie, and that pretty much anywhere in the world 90% of plastic just ends up in the landfill regardless of whether or not you properly sorted into recycling. The cost of sorting, processing, and then reusing the plastic is more expensive than simply using new plastic so it’s not profitable. And the vast majority of cardboard is on usable due to the different types of dyes used to put logos colors Etc on it or is otherwise contaminated on its way to the recycling facility

        Pretty much the only materials actually for real reused and recycled is glass and metals like aluminum and steel

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          Germany has a recycling rate for PET bottles of 94.8%, 45% for general plastic packaging. It’s profitable because if you sell stuff in plastic packaging you’re forced to pay for the recycling. As a consumer you don’t pay for having those yellow bags and bins collected, which means that if you separate all the packaging and put it in there you get to pay less for your other bin. As a producer, if you’re switching your packaging to something that’s easier to recycle, you pay less into the scheme and either lower prices to sell more product or pocket the difference. Our Greens love to solve shit by strategically shifting around market incentives: When the producer has to pay the bill the market failure suddenly vanishes.

          Glass OTOH is a problem because even small contaminations can mess up a whole batch, and the process is energy-intensive in the first place. Crushed glass makes very good aggregate for concrete, though.

          As to cardboard: Sort what you can, the rest goes into industrial composting. Left-over plastic gets burned, which actually isn’t that bad – the issue isn’t the burning (they’ve got proper filters and everything) but that the plastic isn’t sourced from renewable sources. Certainly more sensible even in its current state than burning oil while putting the plastic in a landfill.

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          Mind sharing a source and saying what country youre talking about? Recycling is most certainly not a lie. Yes, some countries dont give a fuck and send it all to a landfill, but others dont.
          There is also the fact that there are more and more battery processing plants too that separate the materials for reuse. Plastics can be remelted and reused after they are grinded and separated. And cardboard, afaik, can just be reused. The ink on the cardboard is just merged into it. There is a reason recycled cardboard has a distinct colour and texture

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            https://youtu.be/RUIV-cWBCIc

            https://youtu.be/HNWn885qWtU

            https://youtu.be/PJnJ8mK3Q3g

            https://youtu.be/NLkfpjJoNkA

            https://youtu.be/NJTOWQh7XKU

            Sure here are a few videos about specifically plastic. The us is the focus in most of them as it generates the most plastic overall, however the key issues mentioned affect the entire industry worldwide (which most of them mention) if you dig around other recycling studies you find lots of cardboard is contaminated before ever reaching the recycling center. I wasn’t clear enough about the logos and stuff, it’s not really the ink but the plastic based wax layer over it to keep it looking nice. The boxes that squeek when you let em slide out your hands

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              Thanks, i will look into these videos!

              As for the cardboard, this is why cardboard used for pizza is not allowed to be put in cardboard bin because of the fats. But overal, thats not that much cardboard wasted ( at least in my household ).

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    Personally I’ve enjoyed the change, keeping track of the lid was always annoying. Also find it strange that everyone I’ve ever seen complain about it, never just riped it off, it’s not that hard, I tried just for the sake of it, it’s not any harder than opening the damn bottle. In fact, once saw one of these naggers complain about accidentally tearing it half way off, making it even more annoying apparently. What clowns.

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        No, but I have friends and family and we occasionally share a bottle, extra annoyance point for sharing in a group of classmates or similar almost stranger group. Usually the first person to open it holds on to it, or you pass it with the bottle, but sometimes someone puts it down, for any reason really, lazyness, not expecting to close it soon, and before ya know it, ya searching for the fucking lid.

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          That is the wildest, stretchiest of hair splittings I’ve ever seen used to justify inconveniencing people with in the name of ‘ecology’.

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            Wild? Ok… Sad, but anyways. I never advocated for inconveniencing people, I gave a specific example because you shitted on me specifically hating to keep track of it, insulting my memory. I generally find it more convenient, because I can more easily drink while driving too. Effectively turns a 2 hand activity into a 1 hand activity.

            And before, I was pointing out, that I find it weird that the people that complain about it don’t just rip it off, considering it’s easy enough to almost rip it off by accident. And when it almost comes off, these dumbasses complain even more, instead of having the brilliant realization that they could maybe just rip it off completely instead of bitching about it being even more difficult to close or something since it’s dangling now.