• bleistift2@feddit.de
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    9 months ago

    Even non-Christian-nutjobs get this wrong, so let me spell it out: Humans didn’t evolve from apes. Humans evolved with apes from a common ancestor.

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      Humans are apes. We evolved from them and we are still them.

      Edit: I think you mean to say chimps, not apes. We came from a common ancestor with chimpanzees. We were never chimps.

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        The Hominidae, whose members are known as the great apes are a taxonomic family of primates that includes […] orangutan[s]; Gorilla[s …]; […] the chimpanzee and the bonobo; and Homo, of which only modern humans (Homo sapiens) remain.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae

        Apes [are] collectively [called] Hominoidea […] There are two extant branches of the superfamily Hominoidea: the gibbons […]; and the [great apes …]

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

        You’re right in that humans are apes taxonomically. What I was trying to contradict was the misconception according to which the type of apes we see today got somehow “frozen” evolutionary some time ago, but that some of their descendents evolved to become human.

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        It’s the same deal as with birds and dinosaurs. Birds didn’t evolve from dinosaurs, they are dinosaurs.

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      Not to mention that the rib thing was a deliberate rewording in later translations, if memory serves it was originally “made from half of Adam” or whatever his original name was.

      The “from his rib” thing was put there as a way of basically saying “from creation women were lesser.” So basically politics of the time affecting the message.

      I’ll have to see if I can find a source later.

      Edit: Source

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    Everyone is discussing semantics, and no one is mentioning that the bible creation of the woman was mistranslated and the word that was translated into “rib” actually means something closer to “appendage”, and the only bone that is missing in men is actually the phallic bone when compared to other mammals, men and women have the same number of ribs.

    Edit: PS: I don’t actually take the bible’s story seriously but think it’s an interesting and funny fact.

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    Makes perfect sense. Obviously god is a scientist who created Eve by cloning from cells that he took from Adam’s rib, right?

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    The fucked up thing about that is it was an intentional mistranslation for the sake of mysogyny. In the original bible, Eve was created from Adam’s equal half but some cracker decided nah lets just use an outdated definition so that she came from a small fraction of Adam instead.

    It’s like how King James censored everything even remotely approaching critique of monarchy for his funny little hotel bible.

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          Monkeys are a group of animals. Our ancestors come from that group. They are classified as monkeys. All of us had monkey ancestors.

          I think you’re confusing that with the specific species of monkey that are alive today. Those are distant relatives of ours, not ancestors.

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    The westboro bapsit church people probably came into their own mothers.

    Remember! The same laws that allow me to make fun of them are the same laws that allow them to say what they say.

    Getting rid of free speech means censoring everything YOU like too.

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      Nobody here said she can’t say what she said. We’re making fun of her for the dumb stuff she’s saying. But thanks for the reminder I guess?

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        People always bitch at me for advocating for free speech.

        If you don’t support the free speech rights of the people you hate the most, then you don’t support free speech.