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    8 months ago

    All humans are like that. Humans are inherently evil. The only way they do good is if they are forced to.

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      8 months ago

      I can say with 110% certainty that I don’t need to be forced to not commit genocide. Hell, I don’t even need to be forced to commit individual murders. If murder was made legal tomorrow, I’m pretty sure that I wouldn’t go on a killing spree because I’m no longer forced to not murder.

      Talk about telling on yourself, if this is what you genuinely think is true for everyone

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        8 months ago

        I can tell you absolutely that you are just lying to yourself. Under the right circumstances, and with the right propaganda, you too would have a knife to your neighbor’s throat. So would all of us. No one is perfectly insusceptible to lies, manipulation, propaganda, or the right sales pitch geared specifically to your personality, beliefs and psychological profile. All of which is pretty easy for the ruling class to both access and use for their twisted plans.

        You just don’t want to admit it because you know deep down inside, it’s true and that bothers you. Humble yourself.

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          8 months ago

          Maybe you ought to humble yourself, given that you’re the one stating that you know with absolute certainty how another individual that you know nothing about would or wouldn’t act.

          I never said I was immune to propoganda, lies, or manipulation - there are just simply no lies, manipulations, or propoganda that could make me abandon my morals to the extent of literal genocide. You could probably get me to hate a group you wanted me to hate, but I wouldn’t murder my own worst enemy - so that’s not going to get you anywhere.

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            8 months ago

            I do know with certainty how you would or wouldn’t act in a situation like that, because you are a human being and human behavior is both predictable and programmable. Which the ruling class does. All the time. Because it is the truth whether you like it or not.

            You’re welcome to go read a psychology or a marketing book and find out all about it if you want. Go read a history book and go learn how regular, upstanding people just like you and me out in Germany got schnookered into supporting the wholesale attempted genocide of the Jewish people. Go step outside and go to a protest here, in the U.S. today and as they and the counterprotesters come to blows, try to convince yourself you’re anything more than a susceptible, imperfect, fallible human being like the rest of us.

            If you say you know with certainty you’d never support or commit genocide, you are saying you’re immune to propaganda, lies and manipulation. And misinformation while we’re at it.

            You are not a perfect person and you are just as capable of committing atrocities as the people you look down upon are.

            Humble yourself. Grow up while you’re at it.

            • get_off_the_phone@sh.itjust.works
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              8 months ago

              Chill yo. Humans are inherently good. None of us want to have a bad interaction. So we try to win-win cuz that’s the easiest and best outcome for both parties and for me. See?

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                8 months ago

                No you’re not. A cursory look at the world around us reveals that. Being told the truth might make you feel bad, but bad feelings doesn’t make a statement any less true. And I certainly won’t lower or debase myself by telling you what you want to hear.