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"Remember how it goes:
You throw a rock, I throw a spear. You throw a spear, I fire a laser. You fire a laser, I personally beam onto the bridge and single handedly kill your crew.
Understood?"
Yes Dr. Ms.The Monarch
Something that I started wondering, when I watched that TNG episode where someone tries pointing lasers at the Enterprise, is if they could still be a viable weapon in the star trek universe if you put enough energy into one. Like, barely-space-capable species laser weapons might barely be noticable to the shields, but if you had like, a laser with a significant fraction of a star’s energy output pumped into it, or just a billion of those primitive laser-wielding ships, surely the shields have got to give eventually
I see we are going with the 40K “flashlight theory”
XKCD has the prototype
According to Memory Alpha, the borgs in TNG use lasers to cut through hulls of ships and even planet rocks
Theoretically you can put any amount of energy into a laser, as long as you can redirect and synchronise waves. And as several stars and black holes have gravities and stuff that can affect the starships, it seems evident you should be able to charge a laser enough to damage any USS starship.
And as the phase cannons seem to output 80-500 GJ, you should be able to match that fairly easily with 10 grams of matter annihilation or a second of about 10e-15 of the energy output of a sun type star.
Interestingly enough, phase modulation of a laser weapon makes more sense than of a particle beam (which the phaser weapons are), and also you don’t suffer from recoil like from phasers.
I wish we had a spin-off series of all the incorrectly reconstructed voyager tales from that future museum this would definitely be a scene LOL
We really would come to think of it.
What a great episode too. Loved seeing Evil Tuvok and by love I mean was scared shitless by seeing him smile.
Smiling Spock in SNW channels the same energy.
You’re not wrong. It’s cute but also deeply deeply wrong.
Lets beam some photon torpedoes into their crew quarters.
swap their coffee reserves for tri-cobalt devices
Widdle waser beams
Janeway really needs to moderate that coffee addiction. I don’t drink the stuff personally, but I don’t think it’s worth some of the stuff she did for a better cuppa
She only drinks tea now.
as long as it’s not Nescafé Gold Blend. that stuff makes me want to vomit from a sip.
been finding out every week that they own some random brand I’ve been using for a while >_>
Nescafé anything is shit. Literally the worst coffee.
Coffee Crisp pretty good tho
agreed. sadly in my area it dominates the store shelves so I rarely find bearable coffee brands :/
Jacobs gives it a run for it’s money. And a runny stool for the poor sods unfortunate enough to drink it.
🤔 So like, what would stop some diplomat from just bringing a suitcase nuke with them when getting beamed on board, and setting it off?
The transporter detects and disables weapons mid beam. In at least one episode, they held a diplomat in the buffer to ask what to do about their weapon.
How the fuck is that even possible even by technobabble standards?
How would they differentiate a weapon from life-saving medical equipment, and why wouldn’t some evil villain capitalize on that fact?
Or just make the crew beam down on some planet for some meeting and nuke the meeting place?
Or just pack a ship full of antimatter and ram it into the Enterprise?
The whole way war is done in Star Trek is so fucking stupid 🤦
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The computer differentiates. Not sure why this is such a leap. The system is able to perfectly rebuild you because it analyzes you as you come in. It needs to know what to rebuild so it scans every part to rebuild. The system is able to tell between a tricorder and a phaser. There is no way for a villain to capitalize on this if they’re the one beaming onto any Starfleet ship because Starfleet is in control.
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You could attack the away party and nuke the planet but it makes no sense to do so. Congrats. You’ve killed a couple people from the away team. The only thing you’ve done is guarantee you’ll be hunted down by Starfleet.
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The deflector shields prevent ships from ramming ships. The shields prevent matter from entering.
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Anti matter is insanely volatile and you’re not going to be able to casually pack the ship full of it
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Ships have been used as suicide vessels that let their warp drive go critical. They’ve done this on ships in space as well as entering space stations cloaked and then detonating.
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Nah, it is not “fucking stupid”.
See, that’s a logical and reasonable explanation and LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch ought to take lessons from you.
Nah, it is not “fucking stupid”
Ehh. I’m still not quite sold on that point, but I accept your explanations for the others.
Yeah I’m just going to go ahead and block you. You come into a Star Trek community throwing a fit about Star Trek, insulting it all based off of your own complete ignorance on the situation, and then have the fucking nerve to insult everyone else?
Some repugnant ass behavior. I’m sorry to @LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch. Just ignore this jerk.
∆∆ Yeah, I figured they would react like that even with positive acknowledgement of anything logical they had to say, because surprise-surprise, they weren’t actually speaking in good faith, they were just angry someone pointed out plot holes in some dumb TV show that their own friend even acknowledged is just fiction and doesn’t matter.
You all are highly highly oversensitive and you need to grow up. If it’s just fiction don’t throw temper tantrums when people point out plot holes because you can’t tolerate any sort of criticism toward a TV show of all things.
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Even crazier, they can filter out disease in the transporter. That’s how they don’t bring plagues back onto the ship after going on away missions.
How do they tell what’s a natural microbiome vs. crazy alien bacteria? Who knows, it’s a fantasy space show. Just sit back and relax.
That’s just a weak-ass cop-out and you and I know it.
Why even have plots if they have magic machines that can make any problem go away with arbitrary explanations of how they work that are neither consistent or logical within the rules of its universe?
It’s stupid. And I can bet you’re just going to respond “Well, I like it anyway so I don’t care” in which case why even bother responding?
Because Star Trek is about cultural and social problems, the tech is just a plot device. When the Warp Drive dies and they dish out some techno babble about why it is just a means to have them deal with whatever caused it.
Then there’s no point in it being science fiction. If you want to make a show about social issues, you write contemporary fiction because that is what it’s for. Doing otherwise causes situations like this where the message is wholly drowned out and ruined by the setting and lore – especially when a lot of the show’s messages are about critical thinking which is often applied when identifying and addressing plot holes in fiction.
Star Trek is just a terrible show. Patrick Stewart is a great actor but Star Trek as a franchise just sucks. The fact that other people like it doesn’t change that.
You do realize, that (original) Star Wars is the same? Or the Expanse? Or basically everything from Asimov? They all wrote about themes that weren’t sci-fi. Morals, philosophy, cultural and societal issues and ideas, wrapped in a sci-fi story. Maybe you should apply some of that critical thinking you were talking about and try to see past your limited horizon to learn what these stories actually want to tell you.
It wasn’t even for better coffee, just coffee.
