Musk also claimed that “there have not been new car [brands] that have been successful for 100 years, apart from Tesla.”

Some automotive brands that were founded in the last 100 years:

Chrysler (1924) Volvo (1927) BMW (1928) Datsun/Nissan (1931/1933) Fiat (1932) Toyota (1936) Volkswagen (1937) Jeep (1943) Land Rover (1948) Honda (1963)

  • Nougat@kbin.social
    561·
    9 months ago

    Daihatsu 1930
    Kia 1944
    Hyundai 1967
    Lotus 1948
    Lamgorghini 1963
    Ferrari 1939
    Saab 1945
    McLaren 1985
    Koenigsegg 1994
    BMW 1928
    Porsche 1931
    Holden 1948
    Mazda 1960
    Lada 1970 (AvtoVAZ 1966)
    Dongfeng 1969
    SAIC 2000
    FAW Group 1953
    Changan 1959
    Suzuki 1955
    Tata 1954 (commercial) 1991 (passenger)
    SsangYong 1954 (Ha Dong-hwan) and 1962 (Dongbang)

    • ttmrichter@lemmy.world
      15·
      9 months ago

      Don’t forget his direct competition in China: electrical vehicle manufacturers BYD Auto (2003) and XPeng (2014). BYD outsells all of Tesla’s worldwide sales and XPeng is an up-and-comer that will likely exceed Tesla’s domestic sales by the end of 2024.

      • Nougat@kbin.social
        41·
        9 months ago

        There’s so many companies in China building cars, I don’t know enough about that market to really speak to that. I tried to hit some big Chinese players with some history, though.

        • ttmrichter@lemmy.world
          3·
          9 months ago

          BYD and XPeng, however, are especially relevant because the former is kicking Tesla’s ass in EV space and the latter is about to. (And BYD makes some kick-ass public buses too. Glorious vehicles!)

          • Hyperreality@kbin.social
            4·
            9 months ago

            Chinese manufacturers are doing well in the European market too. It’s a genuine worry for traditional manufacturers who have failed to innovate for too long.

            Geely’s another big one. They own Volvo but also produce cars under the Lynk and Co brand. Have good lease deals in the Benelux. Then there’s Nanjing Automobile. Own MG and make a quite good (and very affordable) range of electric cars.

            Honestly, I’m also sceptical, but if I buy a new car it’s likely to be an MG 4 based on glowing reviews and affordability.

            • ttmrichter@lemmy.world
              2·
              9 months ago

              It’s a genuine worry for traditional manufacturers who have failed to innovate for too long.

              Oh, don’t worry. European governments will take a page from the American playbook and find a “national security” reason to ban Chinese cars.

            • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net
              1·
              9 months ago

              Same for me. I’m moving back to France next year and I need to buy a car, there is a good chance it will be a MG4