In a few short months, primary voters will begin selecting the Republican presidential nominee. The two debates thus far have been underwhelming. A third is approaching on Nov. 8, but it, too, promises to be the kind of unhelpful event that lacks the virtue of at least being entertaining. Yet I’ll be watching — tuned in and deciding which candidate to support. I’m not a Republican, but I’ll play one on Super Tuesday, March 5.

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    9 months ago

    God damn this is stupid. I was raised Republican and will never be stupid enough to ever vote for one again. Your state is never safe from their absolutism. I live in Oregon and we almost lost all of our rights during our last election for governor. Yet some fucking idiots here are still complaining about how we handled COVID vs how a Republican literal Nazi would be a better governor. It’s absolutely insane how stupid people can be.

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      9 months ago

      What he’s talking about is helping skew the primary results.

      Not that it matters for us in Oregon since the candidates will be decided LONG before we get to vote in the primary. :(

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        No I fully understand. Republicans will vote for whoever is chosen in the primary, so this person is choosing to further radicalize the Republican party.

        Oregon primaries do suck a bit. Still, the Republican governor candidate would have taken so many basic rights we have in Oregon away. Yet people still are thinking they couldn’t be that bad when Dems mess up a few things. Sometimes I feel like dirt is smarter than most oregonians out in the country where I live.

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          He isn’t though, he doesn’t specifically say who he’s voting for, and unless he votes Trump, he’s not really contributing to radicalization. But I don’t see why an independent would switch parties to vote Trump in a primary.

          Right now, in Virginia, Trump is polling at 47% with DeSantis a distant second at 13%.

          https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/2024/virginia/

          If this guy wants Trump, all he has to do is do nothing. Trump wins the primary. If he’s interested in stopping Trump, switching parties to vote in the primary is the way to go.

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            If that very specific situation were hypothetically were true then maybe I guess? But voting for the extreme candidate expecting them to be less ellectible is just wrong. If the Republican party had to pick desantis because Trump died or something similar, the vote count wouldn’t change much. Republican voters all fall in line behind who is picked by the party. All I’m pissed about is the belief that a radical candidate will spoil an election and thinking that voting for a candidate in a primary is somehow not supporting them. It’s hand wavy and normalizes crazy political beliefs.

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              In the primary, there really aren’t any good candidates because they’re all trying to be Trump. :(

              If I thought voting for a non-crazy Republican would help, I’d flip parties too to vote in the primary, but like I say, Oregon is too late to make a difference.

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        It doesn’t matter. Engagement with opposition stifles your own party. I was registered independent for a long time until I stopped being Republican.

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          Own party? What party do Independents belong to? None. They don’t owe a party any allegiance and don’t expect any in return.

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            You are picking a side by voting in the Republican primary. You are Republican because you picked one of their candidates. And like a stated elsewhere they will vote that person into office because they don’t give a shit about who the person is. If they are the chosen Republican candidate they will be in office, you are choosing to make their choice more extreme.

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              Your picking a side to disrupt and add weight to an unlikable candidate who will lose badly in the general election.

              Republicans did this with Bernie Sanders hoping he would win not Hillary Clinton in 2016. It works better in local and state elections where you can organize the effort.