(What makes this an unpopular opinion is that I’m basically advocating for jettisoning an entire Fediverse platform rather than just riding out the rough patch.)

I admin a Lemmy instance, and the amount of spam we get from Kbin and have to deal with is absolutely insane. Every morning I have to spend at least 15 minutes cleaning it up: responding to reports, banning accounts, purging posts, and pruning the images. And it’s more of that all through the day, just in smaller bites.

Many times I’ve toyed with the idea of de-federating Kbin instances completely, but I don’t want to cut off interactions with their legit users. The legit users are not the problem and are very much welcome.

Side note: If you’re reading this and thinking “What Kbin spam?”, then you should reach out to your instance admin(s) and give them a big ‘thank you’. The spam from Kbin is not just a “me” problem.

The underlying issue is that Kbin mod actions do not federate to Lemmy. At all. The mods of their magazines can (and probably are) doing a great job cleaning up spam, but once that spam goes out, it’s a one-way trip to Lemmy and completely up to the instance admins to deal with. For comparison, on Lemmy, the community mods can remove the spam which will then issue a removal action on instances that received it via federation.

I’ve tried various ways to unsubscribe and remove Kbin communities on my instance, but the “unsubscribe” doesn’t seem to be honored by Kbin, either. So I’m stuck receiving content that’s 90%+ spam and having to deal with it every day with no end in sight (barring de-federating Kbin completely). The only thing that sort-of works is hiding the Kbin magazines on my end, but that just hides the spam, too, and I’m still stuck storing it on my system.

So yeah, life for Lemmy admins would be easier if Kbin users would make the switch and I could just de-fed from Kbin without losing the good people.

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    The underlying issue is that Kbin mod actions do not federate to Lemmy

    So this is technically problem that can be fixed by code. No reason users need to change behaviour.

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      The problem is that there’s currently no “light at the end of the tunnel” for when the Kbin devs will address this. I’m not the only Lemmy instance who’s on the cusp of de-federating Kbin entirely, and many already have. The good/non-spam Kbin users are the ones who will be collateral damage. Those are the ones who have kept me from pulling the plug on Kbin already.

      It’s not a great situation, and I don’t want to have to cut off those users, but I can’t deal with the constant spam much longer.

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        The good/non-spam Kbin users are the ones who will be collateral damage.

        You never have any respect for the bad/non-spam Kbin users like me, Admiral Patrick.

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          Ha. I should have used a comma: “good, non-spam kbin users”.

          But also, you’re not clogging my feed with scam links to black market Oxycontin or linking to escort services that, if not outright scams, are likely fronts for human trafficking organizations.

          So, grading on that scale, you are definitely one of the good ones.