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    7 months ago

    Sure, but ties with Russia is not BS and not a “broke discourse”, there definitely is something there. And we need more discourse about it.

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        7 months ago

        It IS! But for some people it’s too much to allow that into their minds. So I try a different tactic: a little slower, so you can also get onboard with this.

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          7 months ago

          What’s known is that certain members of the PVV have dealings with an intransparent Russian agency. How you come from this to

          Its a proven fact that Putin is in control of this party.

          is beyond my comprehension.

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            7 months ago

            Ok, listen can we at least agree that PVV is not “clean” when it comes to Putin? And that they are very much anti “helping Ukraine” ?