“He might lose some pro-palestinian voters but gain some pro-israel moderates”
This is the main problem with the democratic party. They are always tryign to please the far-right, but they are unwilling to compromise with the far-left
I don’t disagree but I think the real problem is that this is how it has to be. We’ve pretty much completely lost the GOP government subversion scheme across all branches and levels. Forget foreign policy, we can’t even get people healthcare and homes. Because these terrorists have taken over our government. How are we going to get the nice things when we’re struggling to get our oxygen mask on?
If you’re concerned about this, get out and vote in ALL local elections, tell your coworkers about local elections, inform them about mail in and absentee voting.
I vote from my kitchen table and get confirmation that my vote was counted. You could too, if it’s not currently accessible to you, complain about it, talk to local news about it. The GOP made the gains they did because of a disenfranchised and apathetic constituency.
Totally, I hear you. I’ve missed maybe 3 elections as an adult, and iirc they were off year primaries. I tried to vote Nancy Pelosi out of office for not being liberal enough. I live in SF and have the privilege to do that. I vote left up and down the ballot. Except president. Because that’s not what’s actually happening here. I don’t like it, and my vote may not matter anyway in California since 1988, but we’re debating christofascist autocracy vs capitalist oligarch republic, not liberal vs conservative. And any mf that can’t see that and considers not voting for the lowest denominator electable Dem is naive or immature. It doesn’t matter what one wants, reality matters. And the reality is half the country has forced us to have that election instead of an actual presidential one. So I’m fighting two party system (successfully) electing and supporting out of state friends running campaigns, for DSA candidates. Not by being unrealistic about how close we are to losing our democracy altogether bc I’m salty that the Dems are as centrist as they’ve ever been. I’m not a centrist, I’m just not living with my head in the sand or the clouds. I got downvoted above… People aren’t realistic. This is our reality today. One needn’t like it, but one must accept it. 🤷
“He might lose some pro-palestinian voters but gain some pro-israel moderates”
This is the main problem with the democratic party. They are always tryign to please the far-right, but they are unwilling to compromise with the far-left
The far right actually holds political power in the US while the far left does not.
Being pro-Israel is not “far right” lol
Supporting apartheid is a far-right position.
Ironically, so is supporting the Hamas position that Israel shouldn’t exist.
To them “far right” just means “shit I don’t like.”
May as well call it the “neoliberal position” lol
I don’t disagree but I think the real problem is that this is how it has to be. We’ve pretty much completely lost the GOP government subversion scheme across all branches and levels. Forget foreign policy, we can’t even get people healthcare and homes. Because these terrorists have taken over our government. How are we going to get the nice things when we’re struggling to get our oxygen mask on?
And all of that is a consequence of demonizing and extinguishing all the left-wing movements in the US. And the democratic party is complicit in that.
It certainly says something about the average american that they are more willing to tolerate a fascist than a socialist.
If you’re concerned about this, get out and vote in ALL local elections, tell your coworkers about local elections, inform them about mail in and absentee voting.
I vote from my kitchen table and get confirmation that my vote was counted. You could too, if it’s not currently accessible to you, complain about it, talk to local news about it. The GOP made the gains they did because of a disenfranchised and apathetic constituency.
Totally, I hear you. I’ve missed maybe 3 elections as an adult, and iirc they were off year primaries. I tried to vote Nancy Pelosi out of office for not being liberal enough. I live in SF and have the privilege to do that. I vote left up and down the ballot. Except president. Because that’s not what’s actually happening here. I don’t like it, and my vote may not matter anyway in California since 1988, but we’re debating christofascist autocracy vs capitalist oligarch republic, not liberal vs conservative. And any mf that can’t see that and considers not voting for the lowest denominator electable Dem is naive or immature. It doesn’t matter what one wants, reality matters. And the reality is half the country has forced us to have that election instead of an actual presidential one. So I’m fighting two party system (successfully) electing and supporting out of state friends running campaigns, for DSA candidates. Not by being unrealistic about how close we are to losing our democracy altogether bc I’m salty that the Dems are as centrist as they’ve ever been. I’m not a centrist, I’m just not living with my head in the sand or the clouds. I got downvoted above… People aren’t realistic. This is our reality today. One needn’t like it, but one must accept it. 🤷