I’m hyped for this TBH.

IMO Dune is a 3 part story, where the first book is parts 1 and 2 and Messiah is part 3. Look at the book lengths and you’ll see what I mean, book 2 is obviously much shorter than the rest and a I kind of epilogue to the first book.

There are the other sequels, yes, with their own conversation about whether they’re worth reading. But in so many ways book 2 really finishes the story and idea of book 1 that I like to think of it as just part 3.

So that they’re doing a trilogy in the same way is awesome IMO!

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    I’m not sure I understand this post. Dune is (or was) a trilogy. Dune, Dune Messiah, and Children of Dune. At least, that’s how I grew up knowing them.

    So in the movies they’re doing a good enough job that they split the first book, Dune, into two parts. I don’t remember the author doing this, though. So the second book, Messiah, will be the third movie and if they’re still making money by then I’m sure we will get Children.

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      Messiah was actually part of the first dune in the original design, although Herbert later splitted it.

      Children is something else, even if it shares the characters, it’s very much a setup for God Emperor. It has very different themes and style. Same with Heretics.

      IMHO Dune is better seen as three duologies: Dune+Messiah, Children+God Emperor and Heretics and Chapterhouse.

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        IMHO Dune is better seen as three duologies: Dune+Messiah, Children+God Emperor and Heretics and Chapterhouse.

        Very true IMO. Illustrated by the protagonists in each book as well … (potential minor spoilers)

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        • Paul (Dune+Messiah)
        • Leto II (Children + God)
        • Idaho, Teg, Odrade (Heretics + Chapterhouse)
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        But what about the prequels?

        /s slightly because I actually enjoyed most of them

        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      The theory I’ve heard touted is that the Villanueva trilogy will just follow Paul’s story. That arc concludes nicely at the end of Messiah and potentially sets up a 4th installment focusing on the kids if the appetite is still there.

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      Well it’s an adaptation. Things get changed.

      It’s interesting to see how far they take it and whether enough people watch it to keep it going.

      While going up to Children might make sense to some, IMO the book series has a somewhat unique quality of having no really obvious ending point, even at the end of the (F Herbert) books.

      The real reason they’re unlikely to go past Children is that God Emperor would be a tough sell for obvious reasons for anyone who’s read it. That being said, if they were to do a fourth film, I could see them folding Children and God Emperor into one.

      Either way, I stand by my statement in the top post, Messiah naturally goes along with the first book.

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      Honestly it seems like an arbitrary line, considering that Herbert’s story continues for a few more books after that. The first two books could also be considered a good standalone (duology?), since they cover the span of Paul’s story.

      Really, the only wrong answer is the first book alone. I think most people read only the first book and get the wrong idea.

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        And my opinion is probably an artifact of the fact that, when I first read the Dune books, there were only 3. Being a) young and b) a fan of sf and fantasy literature, I sort of assumed that the trilogy was the natural literary format for wide ranging stories. That thought process did make Children a bit confusing, of course.

        Ultimately I agree that Paul’s story is the real thing they’re telling. I was just looking for clarification on the “trilogy” idea because of my own history with the series.