Link to the summary of findings submitted by South Africa: https://apnews.com/article/un-court-south-africa-israel-gaza-genocide-71be2ce7f09bfee05a7cae26689ee262

South Africa’s 84-page filing says Israel’s actions “are genocidal in character because they are intended to bring about the destruction of a substantial part” of the Palestinians in Gaza.

It asks the ICJ, also known as the world court, for a series of legally binding rulings. It wants the court to declare that Israel “has breached and continues to breach its obligations under the Genocide Convention,” and to order Israel to cease hostilities in Gaza that could amount to breaches of the convention, to offer reparations, and to provide for reconstruction of what it’s destroyed in Gaza.

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    I’m not ignoring you, and you sound very sincere, so I’ll draw up a reply when I get back home.

    But spoilers alert: things were definitely not peaceful between the Palestian Jews and Palestinian Arabs pre-Israel or after. There’s a long history of violence on both sides, I’ll post a bunch when I get back for you to look at, should you wish. And there’s no innocent parties here pre or post Israel.

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      When ISIS attacked iran, a lot of people blamed iran and america, despite that conflict being driven by hundreds of years of sectarian conflict. They justified their reasoning with the most anti semitic shit possible. I think the left is having a very hard time recognizing anti semitism, and it is going to cast doubt on future leftists efforts. Shame:

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        Agree with you 100%.

        It’s been a terrible wakeup call as I’m left on most things and have no place in almost any left group at the moment with their rabid mindless hate frenzy. I’m anti-capitalist, atheist, pro bodily autonomy, an ally of lgbtq+…

        But in general, all the bulk of these people can do is read whatever Hamas has Al Jazeera publish and knee-jerk, or learn one fact about 100+ years of conflict and think they know the score. Literally 99% of their historical claims are disprovable quickly and easily–super low effort. When it comes to history, they’re Dunning-Kruger masters.

        I think it’s also that the bulk of the nutters are kids 18-24 and this is the first time they’ve really paid attention to war and how fucking awful it is in every way. These horrors are going on everywhere, and they’re just too dumb or ignorant and are way past their ability to comprehend.

        There are a lot of wars and war crimes and more going on. But when I look at their post and comment history, this the only thing they cry about, not Haiti, not DRC, not Ukraine, etc. This one is just really shiney for them because Jews, because it’s DEFINITELY not based on principals.

        Honestly, they look like Hamas MAGA to me these days. Just mindless hate machines.

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          Hamas maga is the best way to describe it.

          Honestly going to get off lemmy soon because the issue is worse here than any other social media. It is kinda insane.

          Houthis are being terrorists and people cheer them lmao

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            100% agree.

            Worldnews terrorists and terrorist sympathizers have driven off a ton of people. I see your comment echoed regularly. A lot of people who reluctantantly have returned to Reddit have said the same thing. And they drive more people off Lemmy than anything else.

            The WorldNews group specifically is a hot spot for terrorist recruitment. I genuinely hope that there’s serious intelligence gathering going on and flagging these radicals. I regularly file reports when they’re advocating terrorism and other illegal activities.

            These nutters are dangerous, and the group continues to get worse all the time. Their trajectory is literally a case study in indoctrination, then ultimately becoming active terrorists or providing material support to terrorists. When you see the really off the deep end shit, be sure to report it.

            They regularly debate that there’s no such thing as terrorism. Which is a screaming red flag.