Down that hole

  • Kinglink@lemmy.world
    621·
    11 months ago

    It should be VIM

    No one comes back from VIM.

    Those who say they have are dirty liars… or have it paused in the background.

  • morgan423@lemmy.worldEnglish
    50·
    11 months ago

    Am the the only weirdo who swapped over to Linux without knowing a ton about it, and didn’t really have any issues? I just started with a Windows-user-friendly distro (Mint Cinnamon), and then just looked up how to get through any weird (to me) issues that I encountered over time. Gradually learned more about what’s under the hood as I went.

    But I see these memes and stories about “I tried Linux, it lasted a week and I went back to Windows” here and there.

    It’s not scary. Am I missing something? XoD

    • PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world
      16·
      11 months ago

      I guess you either picked a distro that isn’t stupid about drivers or you don’t play a lot of those anticheat games (most of which are trashy anyway).

      Personally I’ve always had less problems with Linux. Windows gets in your way and tries to slow you down every chance it gets. If something goes wrong your chances of fixing Windows without a reinstall are really slim. On Linux, it’s more viable to actually fix it which saves you weeks of your time. Reinstalling all my Windows shit every year was such an awful chore. sfc /scannow my ass, that shit never fixed anything

      • Xypev@lemmy.fmhy.net
        1·
        11 months ago

        i’ve reinstalled Linux far more times than Windows because of Pop_OS being a stupidly broken distro and my stubbornness to keep using it for good gaming support. ZorinOS has treated me better, but i still just don’t know how to do the things i want to on it. i can barely figure out how to run an executable despite having grown up with Ubuntu since the beginning. I would have grown up using Linux my whole life if my school laptops weren’t running Windows. Now i just cannot use Linux for more than a week without going back to Windows.

        • Suspicious@lemmy.wtf
          1·
          9 months ago

          I’d recommend trying fedora/nobara(derivative of fedora focused on gaming) it’s widely supported cuz it’s one of the big 3 distris but with much newer packages than Debian but your not getting all the new software the moment it drops like Arch so it’s more stable, they’re very solid distris and automatically support snapshots(they allow you to rollback to previous file states for the entire system without taking up a tonn of memory if you somehow fuck your system). I, at least never had a problem gaming on them and found them to be ideal all-rounders in general

          As for running executables you may need to modify permissions with the chroot command, additionally you may need to sudo to run it

    • glassyoghurtsipper@lemmy.worldOP
      11·
      11 months ago

      Nah, I think if you used a distro like mint on most hardware your experience is completely reasonable.

      I started playing around with Nixos (seasoned Linux user)… That’s a real hole though. Not hard. Just different. And weird. Very cool, but still quite a bit rough around the edges.

      • And009@reddthat.com
        5·
        11 months ago

        I’ve been seeing lot of these posts about Linux. Way more since I joined Lemmy. What’s the deal?

        I have 0 knowledge of programming/coding and feel should be as far away from Linux as possible. Is it not meant for GUI people like us?

        • glassyoghurtsipper@lemmy.worldOP
          10·
          11 months ago

          Linux is perfectly fine for GUI users. It’s really great for most common use cases. You might have issues with games (or so do I’ve heard), but I’m not a gamer and don’t know much about this… Steam has helped make games on Linux a lot better. I just play supertux or supertuxcart or mahjong once in a blue moon and am happy.

          Most things work perfectly - stick to Ubuntu or Fedora or opensuse. Once you get the hang of things, things actually feel better on the Linux desktop:

          • much faster than Windows
          • no tracking
          • highly customizable
          • if you ever get into it, you can script your setup to be easily replicable across machines

          Things that you’ll have to fight

          • fingerprint scanners - only a small subset work. My Dell latitude scanner works perfectly though.
          • some printers might need manual driver download/install
          • some software is only built for Windows (less and less of those these days, unless you’re doing something specialized)
          • CharlestonChewbacca@lemmy.world
            3·
            11 months ago

            Gaming is actually pretty great on Linux now thanks to Proton. I still use Windows for games usually, but of the ones over tried in Linux, I haven’t had any issues.

          • And009@reddthat.com
            3·
            11 months ago

            Is there any way to try Linux on a MacBook. My only gripe with it is lack of games. The Linux library can’t be worst than what I have now.

            • sgtlighttree@lemmy.world
              2·
              11 months ago

              If you have a Mac with M1/M2 chips then I’ve heard about great things about Asahi Linux. Not sure how it’ll work with games though, it already has a hard time on ARM Macs since most games are made for Intel Macs.

          • Ebsku@sopuli.xyz
            3·
            11 months ago

            Printers were a pain on Windows on Linux they worked without much tinkering at least for me

        • Grass@geddit.social
          5·
          11 months ago

          Nah I put my parents and grandparents on opensuse so I don’t have to constantly clean up their viruses. Just installed whatever via flatpak like bottles for running my grandma’s old mahjong tile matching game in wine. They haven’t asked for help with anything else since and I can actually relax sometimes now.

          Hardest part was installing the printer driver I guess. For anyone not comfortable with cli installers anyway.

    • qyron@lemmy.pt
      11·
      11 months ago

      I took the dark path when Vista became thing. With zero technical knowledge, I turned to Linux, with no regrets.

      My entry way was SUSE, which was a shock, with KDE and a radically user experience from WinXP, my former daily driver for many, many years; I was an unashamed fanboy.

      My next and final distro was Debian, when Debian was everything but user friendly. But Debian gave me a sense of control over my computer, which Vista had very proudly took away, while gobling away resources from a not so powerful machine.

      That computer stayed home for about eight years, when it died, beyond any viable repair.

      Debian stayed, although I admit I’ve been using Mint lately, mainly to accomodate for playing GOG games with the least stress.

      But I’m a Debian person, no doubt about.

      And I am the kind of person that spins his laptop at someone sporting a Debian-based distro and utters “I am your father.”

    • Simplesyrup@lemmy.ml
      6·
      11 months ago

      Lol same here, switched to Ubuntu for the most easy noob distro and don’t ever touch the terminal, it’s been going well don’t ever miss windows.

      • intelati@programming.dev
        81·
        11 months ago

        Yep. The most dangerous thing about Linux is also its draw for me.

        You can tweak and fiddle with setting and suddenly 為什麼我要輸入中文

    • Heavybell@lemmy.world
      4·
      11 months ago

      I feel like most people who swapped back either are gamers or otherwise not part of the growing number of people who could happily boot into a web browser and have nothing else on their PC. Like if you have a specific need for professional software you might have trouble staying away from windows, sadly.

    • cyberpunk007@lemmy.world
      21·
      11 months ago

      You must be young. My first Linux distro was like knoppix back in… 2001? Shit ways way different back then. Drivers you had to find manually and inject during install 😂

      • KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml
        1·
        11 months ago

        Holy shit knoppix, forgot about that distro.

        Also around that time, wifi was becoming popular. Installing those goddamn wifi drivers for those pcmcia cards Jesus Christ. I mainly used fedora around them.

        Fedora kind of went to shit for me and I always struggled with drivers until a few years later I did a big distro evaluation and decided to move to Ubuntu where I still am today.

    • qyron@lemmy.pt
      11·
      11 months ago

      I took the dark path when Vista became thing. With zero technical knowledge, I turned to Linux, with no regrets.

      My entry way was SUSE, which was a shock, with KDE and a radically user experience from WinXP, my former daily driver for many, many years; I was an unashamed fanboy.

      My next and final distro was Debian, when Debian was everything but user friendly. But Debian gave me a sense of control over my computer, which Vista had very proudly took away, while gobling away resources from a not so powerful machine.

      That computer stayed home for about eight years, when it died, beyond any viable repair.

      Debian stayed, although I admit I’ve been using Mint lately, mainly to accomodate for playing GOG games with the least stress.

      But I’m a Debian person, no doubt about.

      And I am the kind of person that spins his laptop at someone sporting a Debian-based distro and utters “I am your father.”

  • CodeBlooded@programming.dev
    10·
    11 months ago

    Damn, this meme slaps so hard. I didn’t chase any friends down there, but I thought it sounded like a secret nerd club that I wanted to be a part of. Using Linux is a part of my daily life now, professionally and personally, 10 years later.

    • glassyoghurtsipper@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      11 months ago

      I chase friends and family down (I have non to semi technical 5 people who use Linux for years now).

      Unfortunately… They don’t have to dive into the rabbit hole .I do… to make their flows seamless.

      They’ve been stable for a long time though.

  • I, Mekon@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    7·
    11 months ago

    Oh the horror! I have a laptop running Linux! Two laptops even!!!

    Somebody help me!

    Windows is too bloated to run on said laptops. On one, during it’s life, it could barely do an update! I eventually wiped Windows and put Linux on it. It worked fine, just not very fast. I mean 4Gbytes is a bit of a squeeze.

    • Square Singer@feddit.de
      221·
      11 months ago

      Tbh, I actually wouldn’t recommend Distrowatch. It gets overwhelming real fast.

      It prioritizes “hype” distros over long-term stable distros. So it often recommends small distros with just 1-2 full-time devs over something like *buntu, where there’s a whole company behind that distro.

      I think, Distrowatch is a really good tool for an experienced user who wants to try something new, but it’s not exactly a lot of help for someone who has no clue and just wants to try Linux for the first time.

  • teuto@lemmy.teuto.icu
    1·
    11 months ago

    Make some back ups. Its a good practice in general and when you are unfamiliar with Linux and especially the terminal it’s easy to accidentally kill the os. Always take a second to think about what you just typed if the command started with using sudo.

      • coffinwood@feddit.de
        92·
        11 months ago

        Windows runs 10 out of 10 games, Linux does 8 of which 4 only barely run at all.

        Don’t get me wrong: Windows really is the worst OS, except all the others.

        • 9point6@lemmy.world
          11·
          11 months ago

          I know there’s more to PC games than just steam, but honestly the only issue I’ve had playing games on the steamdeck is when there’s some horrible anticheat service required by the game.

          I guess the problem is that the games with anticheat also tend to be quite popular ones with some people

        • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.de
          5·
          11 months ago

          I thought the same thing until a couple weeks ago, then tried out EndeavourOS which is based on Arch and comes with Nvidia drivers. It’s been awesome and I’ve been able to play whatever I want.

        • selawdivad@lemm.ee
          2·
          11 months ago

          My favourite game was always hacking around in Wine to make games work. Once I got them working I lost interest and moved on to the next game… Now I don’t have time to play games. :(

        • irmoz@reddthat.com
          1·
          11 months ago

          That stat about games doesn’t track for me

          Most Windows games i try run fine on linux

              • coffinwood@feddit.de
                1·
                11 months ago

                And I’d almost bet these two to three titles run fine in Windows which is exactly the point: what is Linux’s advantage here concerning gaming?

                When I want to play a certain title I don’t want something similar because that derivate runs on Linux. That’s maybe okay for casual games like a round of Solitaire where the Linux alternatives are fine.

                • irmoz@reddthat.com
                  1·
                  11 months ago

                  I’d almost bet these two to three titles run fine in Windows

                  Windows 95 maybe… these games were old AF. Nothing made within the past 20 years has this issue.

                  The only games that don’t run on Linux now, are games that don’t run on Windows, either

                  The advantage? I genuinely have a much easier time setting up games on Linux

      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
        33·
        11 months ago

        Because it does everything I need it to do and if I run into issues I can’t solve myself I know that just because of the number of people using it the problem will be known and a solution will exist.

        I don’t mind playing with Linux on my RPi, but having to use it daily and always having to use command lines to deal with things (thus having to search for the right command line every time) gets tiring.

        For the most part Windows just works out of the box and there are things I would much rather do with my time than searching the depth of the internet to find that one person that had the same problem as me and that might or might not have found a solution to their issue…

        And as other people mentioned, my computer is mostly used for gaming these days so it’s easier to use the platform that’s the must widely supported for that purpose.

    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
      81·
      11 months ago

      I’ve put Windows on a spare drive on my PC a few times and always end up deleting it again 🤷

      • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
        8·
        11 months ago

        Windows comes and goes on a spare drive on my main machine as well.

        It’s there for the occasional Steam game that won’t run otherwise. Needless to say, it doesn’t get much use nowadays.

        • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
          7·
          11 months ago

          It just annoyed me every few weeks when I DID boot it, I had to deal with Windows Update

          Which is the WORST operating system update manager ever designed

          • RogueBanana@lemmy.zip
            1·
            11 months ago

            Iirc there were some windows 10 patch tools to debloat and remove some of these annoyance from the iso and some scripts for already installed ones. Try some of them, it was pretty good when I last used it but can’t remember the ones I personally used sorry.

    • Bolle@feddit.de
      1·
      11 months ago

      which is ok. the cool thing about switching to linux is that you don’t have to take risks(e.g. buy an expensive os/hardware) so you can try it out, switch back, wait a bit and try again. I did that and last year was the year of the linux Desktop for me (also thanks to the steam deck)