• bigFab@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    It’s good that some ppl like u focus on facts, although there was few new for me.

    Everybody agrees ukrainians have defended their homeland bravely. The problem is after supplies given we all expected a far shorter conflict and we failed ukrainians in that regard.

    Conscription was something unexpected too. When you call this a Putin blunder you completely dismiss events before the invasion. Civil war was real since 2014. Russia may have lost thousands of soldiers, but it has also succesfully evacuated thousands of russian speaking ukrainian civilians from Donbass and other bloody civil war areas.

    Western propaganda makes you believe the solution to the whole conflict be as simple as to take one man named Putin down. What a fairy tale idea. He is only the weapon of the big russian entities that have interests here and there. They’d just replace him with a worse one.

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      5 months ago

      a Ukrainian “civil war” is a Kremlin lie. the Donbas “separatists” were always practically all Russian soldiers and Russian materiel.

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        5 months ago

        Call it as you wish, but the outcome for the ukrainian civilians in that area was the same. Thousands of deaths since 2014.

        Russia did supply military, but ukrainian army conducted bombardments too. When you bombard own soil killing civilians en mass, I guess it’s a pretty strong argument to call it a civil war. Ofc everything is relative.