• czech@kbin.social
    2·
    11 months ago

    You didn’t list a single thing America is #1 in. Is there a single thing other than defense spending?

    All of your “metrics” are either not true or not metrics. That is amazing.

    • 10A@kbin.social
      2·
      11 months ago

      This interaction is done. You’re obviously not a fan of the US, and if you don’t live here anyway then you have every right not to be. It’s no skin off my back. I wish you all the best. See ya around.

      • czech@kbin.social
        3·
        11 months ago

        I’m just asking for facts not biased nationalism. I’m not sure what I expected.

        • 10A@kbin.social
          2·
          11 months ago

          Here’s the thing: I’m tired and headed to sleep. This has been a long and meandering conversation full of disagreements, with no real point. It’s a bit exhausting. You’re asking me about a topic that has been written about extensively in multiple books and articles. You can look up “American Exceptionalism” if you really want researched facts with academic citations. I was just giving you my honest thoughts, as a rather sleepy individual. I’m sorry those thoughts weren’t up to snuff for you.

          • czech@kbin.social
            2·
            11 months ago

            My point was that America is not number one in anything. It doesn’t mean it’s a bad place to live it’s just delusional to think it’s the “greatest” by any measurable metric. Research “nationalism” if you need more information.

            • 10A@kbin.social
              2·
              11 months ago

              I know what nationalism is, thank you. I also know what American Exceptionalism is, and it’s a well established doctrine, well rooted in fact. I might have failed to explain it well, or maybe you just didn’t want to question your preconceived beliefs. Either way, American Exceptionalism is the real deal, and no amount of bickering over it could change my mind. Thank you, though, for sharing your perspective with me.

              • czech@kbin.social
                2·
                11 months ago

                I’m sure you can list one thing America is number one at? Its such a firm belief you hold you must know one thing, right?

                Or is your opinion just entirely based on emotion?

                • 10A@kbin.social
                  2·
                  11 months ago

                  It’s a confluence of many factors, some of which I already listed, and instead of accepting and seeking knowledge, you rejected my explanation. I’m done replying to you here. Take care.

                  • czech@kbin.social
                    2·
                    11 months ago

                    Your position is that America is “the greatest country possible” so the political spectrum used by the rest of the developed world is not relevant to us. We went through this exercise to illustrate that America actually doesn’t lead the world in anything except defense spending and mass shootings.

                    So to bring it back full-circle, before you sent us down a tangent about your nationalism-

                    The largest news organization in America, Fox News, is far-right. What you consider “far-left” is considered centrist to right-leaning in the rest of the developed world. America is not “so great” that we can’t consider these classifications because America doesn’t actually lead the world in anything other than death.