This is an opportunity for any users, server admins, or interested third parties to ask anything they’d like to @nutomic@lemmy.ml and I about Lemmy. This includes its development and future, as well as wider issues relevant to the social media landscape today.

Note: This will be the thread tmrw, so you can use this thread to ask and vote on questions beforehand.

Original Announcement thread

  • Menu@slrpnk.netEnglish
    12917·
    11 months ago

    Right now, instances with transphobic and racist content like exploding-heads are still listed on join-lemmy.org. Are you planning to implement a Server Convenant like on joinmastodon.org? To be listed on joinmastodon.org, an instance needs “Active moderation against racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia”.

    • nutomic@lemmy.mlMEnglish
      6218·
      11 months ago

      The instance list is fine as is. Think about it like this: do you want racists to join a single instance so they are all in one place? Or do you want them to spread across all different instances, causing moderation problems everywhere?

      • Menu@slrpnk.netEnglish
        385·
        11 months ago

        Yes, I think it would be best if they would all gather on one instance that can get defederated. Right now they attract users on join-lemmy with “Use humor and facts to hold the ruling class accountable”, no other info.

        • nutomic@lemmy.mlMEnglish
          298·
          11 months ago

          It doesnt really matter what you want. The software is open source so anyone can use the software freely. No way to prevent it.

        • nutomic@lemmy.mlMEnglish
          149·
          11 months ago

          Thats fine, they can provide their own list of instances where users can choose from.

          • Menu@slrpnk.netEnglish
            175·
            11 months ago

            They are on your list (which is seen as the official one by many and has most visits) to guide transphobes and fascists to their fitting community?? Exploding-heads is not labeled as transphobe and fascist on join-lemmy. So that does’t make sense.

    • hruzgar@feddit.deEnglish
      627·
      11 months ago

      Wasnt free speech all about being able to express your opinion without getting banned?

      • Dandroid@dandroid.appEnglish
        372·
        11 months ago

        No. It’s about being able to voice your opinion without going to jail for it. No one is going to jail for making transphobic memes or comments. But that doesn’t protect them from me blocking them or banning them from my instance.

        • hruzgar@feddit.deEnglish
          519·
          11 months ago

          Ok fair enough. But (outside of the context) defederating/banning certain communities because they don’t have the same beliefs as you can lead to a fully opinionated/based fediverse and should be prevented imo. Everybody should be able to express their opinions no matter what. I don’t want lemmy to change into some kind off mass media like everything else rn. If a post isn’t showing a good/kind, people respecting vibe, it will be downvoted and thus not shown to anybody. And later if lemmy creates an algorithm of some kind, these posts can be ghosted for certain individuals. But i don’t think they should be completely removed and banned from the connected fediverse as this platform is one of the only ways to express ourselves online at this point. I hope i could get my point across

          • The dogspaw @midwest.socialEnglish
            14·
            11 months ago

            Defederation doesn’t prevent them from being able to access the fediverse nobody has a right to harassing people thats like saying you are being discriminated against because you aren’t allowed in the public park because you throw garbage everywhere and spray paint the children’s play equipment but it’s a public park my rights

      • figaro@lemdro.idEnglish
        592·
        11 months ago

        They are allowed to exist, but they don’t need to advertise for them.

        Especially in the place where casual people go to sign up. Can you imagine someone picking a random server and then suddenly seeing that shit? They would stop using lemmy completely.

      • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        85·
        11 months ago

        please give me your home address, I would like to deliver a monologue about the work of artist Giorgio DiChirico at 3am every night in your bedroom

        as a free speech absolutist you must have no objection, right?

        edit: looks like the guy I was replying to got deleted and it now looks like I’m replying to the top level comment. Commenter was suggesting there should be no limits on any speech, hence me giving an example of absolute free speech being an obvious thing no-one wants — so that we can agree there must be some limit on speech.