• Tinidril@midwest.social
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    4 months ago

    I literally didn’t.

    You are literally correct. I got my threads mixed and I apologize. Still, claiming that…

    every implementation of a communist state (or even a vaguely leftish state) is ruthlessly hunted down and destroyed by capitalist powers

    … comes pretty darn close. Did America hunt down and destroy Communism in China, or is it still Communist?

    Communism survives and China is eclipsing the US. And no, they’re not capitalist.

    Well, no they aren’t. Since this discussion started with me saying that neither communism or capitalism can exist outside of ideological exorcises, you shouldn’t feel the need to tell me that.

    The Party is in control, politics is in command, they are advancing so incredibly quickly because they don’t allow the market to run society or capital owners to be dictators.

    Xi Jinping’s estimated net worth is $1.2b. Is that not capital? For comparison, Joe Biden’s net worth is $10m, though some estimates go up to $40m. Which country is run by capital owners again? If you think that Xi Jinping only makes capital allocation decisions in the interests of the average Chinese citizen, then I have a great wall to sell you.

    By any means necessary.

    And here I was actually taking you seriously.

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      4 months ago

      Xi Jinping’s estimated net worth is $1.2b.

      Oh boy, I sure am excitedly to hear where this little factoid came from…

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          4 months ago

          There is this great capitalist invention called a search engine. You should check one out. $1.2b is the lowest estimate I found BTW.

          Statements like this have a 100 percent correlation with the person making them being full of shit.

          I stopped feeling generous when you closed your comment with an implied threat against my country.

          ???

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      4 months ago

      … comes pretty darn close. Did America hunt down and destroy Communism in China, or is it still Communist?

      It’s still controlled by a Communist Party and it’s still building communism. The revolution isn’t over yet. Actually existing socialism.

      Xi Jinping’s estimated net worth is $1.2b. Is that not capital?

      Literally no, capital is productive. Businesses, factories, warehouses, restaurants, farms, etc. Money is not capital in a Marxist sense, it’s merely a means of exchange. I’m also skeptical he is actually a billionaire, that sounds like it’s just some rough estimate made up by probusiness propaganda.

      “But Biden isn’t a businessman!” I hear you say, and no, he isn’t. He also isn’t in charge. His and his party’s political donors are, and they own capital and they own Biden. He’s just another one of their investments.