Donationware: you must donate to use it. Not like regular optional donates.
I paid for “premium” boost fpr lemmy and it was 100% worth it. I didn’t had too but having lemmy on boost made me forget about reddit.
Boost is
Freemiumsoftware.Removed by mod
One of my favorite programs was acting up, so I went to reinstall. Turned out this program that has been free for a decade, now wants $29 a month, to let me pirate movies. Da fuck? What a way to shit the bed, to offer the same free program but charge for it out of nowhere
If anyone actually pays $29 a month to watch movies illegally modern streaming services have truly reached a new low
I mean, that’s cheaper than having three or four subscriptions to cover at least the basic catalog.
Yeah it’s was bittorrent. they went with a paid, tiered model now. They want me to pay to use a torrent client to pirate stuff, it’s ridiculous
… Use a better torrent client. Like qbittorrent or transmission.
If you were using uTorrent, it stopped being safe a long time ago.
I had no idea as I’ve been using it for years and it was just there. I switched to q
now whatever you do, don’t steal it
also doublecheck you aren’t on a scam site or that the product hasn’t forked ;)
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Just about every instance of this, you can donate $0…
That’s the true definition of donationware.
If you’re being forced to “donate” any amount of money upfront to use the software, it’s no longerdonationware, it’s literally just paidware. Even if the source code is available elsewhere under a FOSS license, that specific copy is by definition paidware.Annoying that I have to do that
Any real-life example of anyone doing this?
FairEmail is a privacy oriented email app on fdroid which uses donation to activate pro features. €0.10 to activate one time and €7.50 for unlimited future devices. I think it’s a pretty fair deal.
https://email.faircode.eu/donate/It’s a fair deal, but the point is it’s not a donation. You can purchase pro features, and that’s great. But it’s not a donation if you get a product in return, that’s just a purchase.
And op asked for real life examples and that is what this person is answering to
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You can use it for free, you just need to donate to get rid of the banner and to get all features.
The bare functionality is in fact free
I’m not disputing that. I’m just finding it silly to call purchases donations.
That’s not a donation, that’s just a purchase
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Voicemeeter did that too.
But honestly i don’t really see what’s wrong. There’s a base donation for the price of the software but it just give the option to support the dev if you want…
I mean most things that rely on donation like that are just cheap indie software (I think voicemeeter was $5)
I’d take that over the awful and greedy subscriptions that cost an arm like adobe or Microsoft.
I think FreeFileSync does make some additional features available when you donate, which I don’t think would otherwise be available.
Screenskraper but they have to pay server costs so it makes sense.
OCCT for some fucking reason, where it doesn’t.
OCCT doesn’t require you to purchase it for personal use (although you will get a 10sec timer before you can start a benchmark/stability test), which is why i think it doesn’t count as “donationware”
Maybe nagware would be a better label. Like winrar.
Maybe it’s regional, but the webpage doesn’t say anything about a donation. It uses language like “store,” “purchase” and “subscription.”
It’s free software. You can charge money for distribution of free software but if the user does then he has the right to have acces to the source code forever no restrictions. And that user is free to distribute copies of the software as he wishes.
You can charge money for distribution of free software
That copy is Paidware.
but if the user does then he has the right to have acces to the source code forever no restrictions
No. FOSS licenses provide protections/rights over the source code to the user regardless if that user paid for it/a pre-compiled binary or not.
Even in a scenario where the source isrestricted-access FOSSthe license still grants those protections without exception. Moreover a restricted-access FOSS model goes against the very nature of FOSS, even if it’s not explicitly forbidden by the license. This kind of model is typically referred to as commercial open-source software (COSS).
This approach is essentially commercial proprietary software but they messed up by picking the wrong license.So would that mean that torrenting parted magic is legal?
Yes? You can also torrent your favourite Linux distros. Torrenting is not illegal; distributing pirated content is
My bad, got it mixed up with gPartEd
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Not sure if it would count. But https://fritzing.org/download/ Went to pay it or ?compile it yourself? with version 1.0.
Mynoise.com allows you to do a 1 time donation of 1$ to unlock all the sounds. You then just need the email you donated with.
So… Freemium.
I think pay what you can/want is a great concept, but calling it donation is kinda misleading
I find it funny how the word retard has become a slur but the implication that something is retarded is still acceptable
Turns out there’s a difference between insulting a person and disparaging an inanimate thing.
Do y’all remember Wanda Sykes doing commercials about stuff being called gay and how it was offensive?
This is basically the same thing but with retard instead of gay.
I don’t like either and have been mobbed over my opinion, despite being a caregiver for adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities.
One of the reasons I speak up as a caregiver is I have known ASD 1 people who admitted that it bothers them that people use that term, but they feel like they can’t make the argument themselves. Because they’re disabled.
Out of touch assholes are the only ones still dug in over this.
I mean I’m autistic and adhd. I’ve been called retarded pretty much my whole life. To me it’s like the nword at this point. The only difference is I’m not black so I’m not gonna be throwing that around.
I’m pretty sure you were downvoted by someone angry that you referenced the nword, even though you were literally equating the use of the word as a slur to your own experience. Which is a bummer, because as a neurologically atypical person, it can be difficult even to speak out to address your own lived experience, and can also be difficult to know what to say to have neurologically typical people grasp what you’re trying to express.
Which demonstrates why I bitch about people using the word “retarded” as an insult. When people with that lived experience do speak up, sometimes it can be difficult to make the point you’re making in a way the greater population understands and BAM! Now you’ve pissed off everyone!
It’s so ridiculous to me that there are people out there so proud, so attached to the words they use as insults that having someone else say, “You might be hurting someone other than the person you intend with that word, could you maybe pick another one?” outrages them.
And, let me just say, if you’re too dim-witted to think up a better, more appropriate insult, you might be as stupid as the people you’re trying to insult.
I say it every now and then, but only for normally abled people acting like idiots. Is that an acceptable use?
The problem is, you’re using someone else’s diagnosis as an insult. That’s the part that sucks.
Luckily we’ve been able to phase out most of the people who still have “mental retardation” as their diagnosis. The disappointing thing is we still have (mostly older) people who will never be reclassified.
I’m sorry that you’ve been mobbed for sharing this view. That’s shitty.
I feel like ableism, especially against people with intellectual and personality disability, is the one sphere where nobody seems to take the objections of the targeted group seriously, and simultaneously dismiss people speaking up for the targeted group for being “virtue signalers” or as whiners. So it’s like the only solution is to just not say anything.
(Tangential but I have similar feelings about people calling others narcissists and attacking them for it, though I don’t feel like that is going to change anytime soon. Still, if the person targeted is actually a narcissist, then I feel like it’s bad to attack them for a diagnosis and symptoms they have no control over. And if they aren’t actually a narcissist, then why further stigmatize people with narcissism? It’s more complicated than the r-slur since abuse by narcissists happens and victims shouldn’t feel restricted from sharing their experiences accurately, but similar in how it’s disproportionately used to disparage and nobody takes objections to that usage seriously.)
I agree completely with your entire reply. Thanks for stopping by to share it!
I think people who say it’s a slur are retarded /s
i guess the problem comes from the term instead of its meaning, even if that makes no sense
In a lot of religious areas, you’re not allowed to buy religious iconography.
But if you make a set-price donation, they’ll give you religious iconography as a completely unrelated gift to recognize your piety.
Escortware. You’re not paying for the software, you’re paying for the time you’re using the software.
Isn’t that essentially software as a service?
In English, the correct meaning of words is always optional. The language is fluid, literally anything can be a euphemism; idk if that’s also the case in other languages but it regularly trips up even native speakers.
Even so, even with that much flexibility built into the language, this is still just malignant, cynical, toxic lying of the worst sort.
What like itch.io? Hard disagree
Itch is free, with optional donations.
Donationware is “Please donate to continue”
Donationware is “Please donate to continue”
No, that’s either Freemium or Trialware.
I think they’re referring to software that has like donate indicators/prompts in the app, or features blocked behind “donation.”
yes, those.
donate indicators/prompts in the app
That’s either donationware or nagware depending.
features blocked behind “donation.”
That’s just Freemium.
Hey what if my software is paid, but you can purchase it for N money or more, with an input field?
Because that I’ve seen a lot, and it sounds suspiciously like what you’re describing, yet completely normal.
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Here in Australia we have Meetup groups which request mandatory donations for hikers too.
Always by the worst guides. Surely the tax office and legal system (when people get injured) can’t outsmart such actual genius lol
Isn’t Vim donationware? (Hint: it is)
It’s charityware.
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:help iccfNo? I’ve never had to donate to use vim.
For it to be donationware, you must not be able to use it without donating.
I dunno this lacks nuance… I think this could easily be referring to different economic situations. The concept of donation usually has this implication of not being a for-profit entity or for a indie developer’s side project. These kinds of apps usually are still either open source or source available which is different than closed, proprietary applications. With this focus on money, I would assume that “free” is meaning gratis where users can often be the product & while the source is not available …or some VC-funded product where they are loss-leading a free tier now just eventually charge everyone later which is hardly good, with a dash of open washing to taste.
Now what about software that pays you to use it?
Oh no, I just described cryptocurrency.
And bloatware. (Kind of. I understand it subsidises the cost of your device/software.)
