I’m very new to the Warhammer 40K universe. I found a group that plays role games and I wanted to join that I felt I needed to learn the lore first.
I’ve been binge-watching lore videos on Youtube and BTH im hooked, I can see how similar it is to franchises that came after and were inspired by it, but at the same time is like nothing I’ve seen before. I actually love that there is not such a thing as a “good ending”.
I wanted to ask people who know more about this universe than me, what is the worst thing that has ever happened in the universe? The most tragic event? The most disturbing one? I really want to know and read about it.
I wanna read some books but seems like ebooks are not available on my country, on Kindle it seems like they were purged and on Kobo maybe I could by them with a VPN or something.
I’d say it’s how the Imperium swallowed up and destroyed a number of civilizations that had separated from them that had been developing in much more progressive, prosperous ways. The Olamic Quietude and the Interex come to mind as examples. They showed that humanity didn’t have to go down the terrible path they’ve ended up on.
Or, going farther back to look for a single “worst thing” that’s had the greatest awful knock-on effects, I’d say that’d be the Old Ones’ refusal to grant any aid to the Necrontyr when they asked for it. That one selfish act sparked off the War in Heaven, created the Chaos Gods, and everything that followed.
If you can’t find the books available through legal channels in your country, you might want to consider looking for them on the high seas. !piracy is a good resource for that sort of thing.
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Worst thing overall was probably the fall of the Eldar. They created the 4th Chaos God and tore a hole in reality straight to Hell across half the galaxy. Screwed things up bad for everyone.
Most tragic, my vote gets the fall of the Thousand Sons. They would’ve been the most potent anti-Chaos tool the Imperium had by far, and seemed to genuinely care about the humans around them and their cultures. Magnus was extremely prideful but well-meaning, which led to him making deals with Tzeentch that doomed everyone.
Most disturbing, I go with the child who’s favorite toy was a servitor dressed like a clown. He was a psychotic murderer who was turned into a lobotomized cyborg toy-slave, and the kid thinks of it like a teddy bear. Servitors in general are messed up.
Magnus did nothing wrong and Russ has fleas.
Damn straight.
Of all the people that could be blamed for how bad things are, I think Erebus is the one who deserves it the most because he knew what he was doing and acted out of malice in a way that others didn’t. Magnus and the Emperor did a lot of bad shit, but they did it for “good” reasons.
Keep in mind that even “good” is extremely subjective. The imperium’s goal before the heresy was to eradicate any and all Xenos, which is definitely not good. However, just before the heresy began, there was a glimmer of hope that maybe the IOM would take a less hardline approach toward Xenos if they could establish diplomatic relations. Any hope of that was ruined though once the HH began.
Edit: Also, if you are looking for ways to access the books, I’d recommend sailing the high seas
The Horus Heresy. When you see what the Emperor’s vision actually was, and really get to compare it to the galaxy they got, it’s just… so much worse. And the galaxy is pretty goddamn bad to begin with. But you know there’s a special place at the very bottom of hell for Erebus.
Kinda OTT: what videos have you been binge-watching? I don’t crap about Warhammer, but I saw this and it’s epic:
That was super cool, thanks for the link.
Probably the creation of Orks.
I subscribe to the idea that since Orks are living in a utopia from their perspective, they are the only faction living in utopian circumstances, and we know Ork psychic energy can affect reality so the sum total of all Ork desires may effect the entire universe, the current circumstances in the 40k universe are all a consequence of Ork desires. Every bad thing that has happened since Orks were created were to engineer a paradise for Orks, which is an irreconcilable deadlocked state of total war.
I don’t think the Waagh field is quite that strong in canon lore, but holy shit that makes way more sense than it should. I never even considered this as a possibility.
Here’s a bunch of books you can download. If you want to learn lore through a game Rogue Trader is great, same kind of RPG as Baulders Gate or Wrath of the Righteous.
I’m not a huge Warhammer nerd but I’ve been playing/interacting with the lore since like 2000. Couldn’t possibly say the worst thing that’s ever happened. The Warhammer universe is tens of thousands of years of tragedy and carnage.
The all guardsmen party is fucking fantastic. It’s actually the story of someone’s campaign in the Warhammer RPG. It should give you an ass ton of background lore, as well as an idea of how the game can work. It’s also probably the funniest thing you’ve read in a long time.
Edit: Perhaps I am warhammer nerd.
Upvote for All Guardsman Party. There’s apparently a video series/narration of it as well, though I haven’t watched it myself. Reread it 3 times now, though!
