• lad@programming.dev
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    4 months ago

    I don’t see how the opposite is not correct: god gave us the means to do evil, that we couldn’t do without him. But it is the free will of evil people that turns the ability into reality

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        4 months ago

        You’re not going to convince anyone on an Atheist thread, because we’ve heard the dogma before and have used logic and reason to come to our own conclusion instead of blindly having faith. Ironic that you’re encouraging blind faith while trying to sprinkle logic into your argument.

        Both people you mentioned are humans. According to the bible, they are both evil because all humans are born into sin.

        You also cannot say all good things are from God for so so many reasons. But the most obvious one is that you don’t know god, and you don’t know their intentions. What we DO know is that either evil came into existence without God, and God isn’t powerful enough to stop it. Or god allowed it to exist. Or god created it themselves. So which one is it? Also, god has free will so why is their free will good but ours is evil?

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        4 months ago

        The first factor, which comes from god, is always positive

        I’m sure the babies is Sodom and Gamorah really had it coming.
        I’m sure the babies of the Cannanites when Moses and the Israelites were told to genocide them really had it coming.
        I’m sure all the babies that died in Noah’s Flood really, really had it coming.