It’s for my mother, who so far cannot stand LibreOffice.

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    While I personally love LibreOffice, I get why your mom might not. It’s super easy:

    1. Download and install Office
    2. run irm https://massgrave.dev/get | iex in Powershell and follow the instructions
    3. Profit!

    What doesn’t she like about LibreOffice, out of curiosity? It’s easy to make the layout like Office (View > User Interface > Tabbed) if that’s her problem - I felt the exact same way, but the second I found out I could do that, I never went back.

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      Done this a while ago for my brother who needed Office for work but isn’t as tech minded as I am. It’s honestly a fantastic tool, kudos to the creator!

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        Massgrave is a tool that can create legit (oem) keys for windows and office out of thin air*

        • it’s not literally creating them from nothing, it’s using a system Ms themselves run to get working keys. Evidently they don’t have a huge problem with it.
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          Turns out the powershell step is enough to get 97% of users to shell out cash.

          And also, the biggest source of revenue is institutions who either will pay for the enterprise license, or can be sued for a good payday if they try to pirate.

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        Man everyone I work with uses PDF and I have to do some janky shit to fill it out and sign it. Not that I would want docx either…

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          Yeah please teach me how you found it so I can be as resourceful as you. I’m not really interested in your self deprecation. Thank you.

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            Not OP, but I’m aware of it just from seeing it mentioned in threads like this. There might be a community or list available showing all these cool things but a lot of the time it just goes around by word-of-mouth.

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            :(

            But, seriously, I’m pretty obsessed with piracy stuff and have spent an insane amount of time poring over lists like FMHY so it’s like trivia to me now

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    Meanwhile I quietly switched Ms office with libreoffice on my dads PC and he didn’t even notice.

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    @Reverendender

    OnlyOffice Desktop Editors…

    Simpler interface but lacking more advanced features of MS Office or Libre. It has the features 90% of users actually use though.

    Nearly perfect DOCX formatting compatibility. The only thing I have ever noticed when collaborating with Word users is the bullet symbols on list items may be different on my end.

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      Agreed. I really tried to like Libre/OpenOffice over the years but it never felt right. OnlyOffice really hits the spot for me.

      I don’t use Windows much any more but I was happy with the discounted student version of Office 2016, afaik the last perpetual license.

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        Onlyoffice sucks very bad with macros in my experience, lacks some advanced functions, and infuriatingly doesn’t seem to have options search, but other than that it’s fantastic, very intuitive, ergonomic and sleek option.

        My own daily driver.

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          If I’m doing anything substantial, calculation-wise, I use openpyxl.

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              You might also find the Python library pandas useful. Its “DataFrames” can mirror your excel data 1:1 and you have convenience methods like to_excel(). Easy to combine with numpy for performant matrix math.

              XLSX just becomes a container for storing/sharing your data, and while Python is used for analysis. I would use matplotlib for plotting rather than embedding in the sheet.

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    u can download OFFICE official ISO fom microsoft directly and use MASS to activate just take like 5 mins downloading, installing and activating.

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    I’ve had success using a cracked Office 2013 installation. The older ones don’t have as sophisticated anti piracy measures and don’t unactivate themselves as often.

    I eventually got my dad to use Libre office. There are several different ui layouts and one of the is really similar to ms office.

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    At this point I think it’s more beneficial for you to move to using LibreOffice. It’s a better to spend your time getting used to that, instead of trying to obtain MS Office.

    I’m not saying that LibreOffice is as good, but it’s good enough.

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    Out of curiosity: what she doesn’t like?
    I bought my license for like 4 or 5 usd after a life of sailing and using libreoffice, not on ebay but on one of those praised website that sells key for games and such

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    i don’t want to start a war but sorry, office is the defacto when it comes to office work and libreoffice still have many problems with formatting and editing existing .docx files (things seem better when it comes to .xlsx and .pptx) not to mention that your documents might not look similar on both due to missing proprietary fonts.

    its a good software in itself its just that its compatibility with office is a little dodgy

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      It’s because it’s not the native format. How does MS Office show/edit ODT documents? Does it work better?

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        Idk i have never worked with a complicated odt document Although, I would expect some problems because of fonts

        Come to think of it. I tried that a couple months ago and The results weren’t so great.( I told word to specifically save my docx document in ODT format)

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          I don’t understand why ODT is complicated. It’s a zipfile with inspectible data. The standard document is also not as vendor-specific as MS OOXML which is thousands of pages that everybody gave up upon.

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            I think they meant complicated in the sense of having a complex document with formatting and so on (like a scientific paper)

            Not that the file format itself is complex.

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            I meant the document (with a lot of pictures, tables, graphs, using a lot of different fonts, etc.) Not the file format.

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              I still don’t really know what you mean. How a document looks like depends on you. I’ve got very many fonts available, much more than average Microsoft Office user has. And it’s easier to use LibreOffice from my point of view, because it emphasizes structure. It looks much cleaner by default than MS Word. The only thing MS Word is better in is typesetting. LibreOffice simply fails to place letters properly.

              Documents produced by office suites are not really good for publications. They are very annoying to handle, no matter if it’s MS Office or Libre. The cheapest option to have something professional is LaTeX.

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      I’d argue that no one gives a shit what the docx looks like as long as it looks good as a PDF or presentation slide.

      And for that I use whatever is at hand, which mostly consists of Gsuite shit at work. Sometimes O365 for school (because NA is stupid) or work. At home it’s Libre still Gsuite…

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    If you must have MS office, then I’d go with MAS/Massgrave like others have said.

    It’s well documented, requires minimal setup (if going default route), and is much less risky than going into the grey market for keys or downloading cracks elsewhere.

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    Why not try out onlyoffice? The interface is almost exactly the same, and you get free cloud storage