Mona: Australia women's-only museum files appeal to keep men out
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Australia's Mona asked a court to reverse its ruling that allowed men inside a women's only space.

Australia’s Mona asked a court to reverse its ruling that allowed men inside a women’s only space.

Archived version: https://archive.ph/oHT6U

  • protist@mander.xyzEnglish
    2916·
    2 months ago

    In a world where there are millions of men who actually believe women are advantaged over men in today’s society, it’s interesting to see the international uproar occurring over this single exhibit that made that belief actually true. A single exhibit at a sex museum in Tasmania that’s literally about gender discrimination.

    • fiat_lux@kbin.social
      314·
      2 months ago

      A single exhibit at a sex museum in Tasmania

      Small point of order: MONA, despite how it sounds when pronounced as an acronym, is not a sex museum. It’s the Museum of Old and New Art. You may return to your debate.

      Personally, I’m finding the whole thing delicious. As someone who went to university in a building where the post-graduate / staff floor didn’t have a female bathroom - likely because when it was built women were only expected to clean and serve tea in that space - I appreciate the artist and museum setting official legal precedent around this topic. And doing so with panache.

      • protist@mander.xyzEnglish
        111·
        2 months ago

        I appreciate you! I’ve admittedly never been to MONA and just picked a word from the Wikipedia intro:

        MONA houses ancient, modern and contemporary art from the David Walsh collection. Noted for its central themes of sex and death, the museum has been described by Walsh as a “subversive adult Disneyland”.

    • over_clox@lemmy.world
      2418·
      2 months ago

      And I find this funny, but in the sad way ☹️

      Folks trying to fight sexual discrimination with sexual discrimination… 🤦‍♂️

      Those that dispute, fight and argue about such things that way don’t even seem to realize that they’re just contributing to the problem.

      • protist@mander.xyzEnglish
        227·
        2 months ago

        I just have to completely disagree. Art has consistently served to challenge the status quo and provoke thought and discussion, and this exhibit has absolutely excelled in that regard.

        Now the artist is moving on to explore existing discrimination exemptions under the law in Tasmania:

        In fact the Lounge already possesses many of the redeeming qualities listed in the verdict that would make it eligible for an exemption under section 27 of the Anti-Discrimination Act 1998 (Tas). Where it isn’t already eligible, a number of minor adjustments should bring us into compliance.

        The law states that a person may discriminate on the ground of gender:

        (a) in a religious institution, if it is required by the doctrines of the religion of the institution; or

        (b) in education, if it is for the purpose of enrolment in one-gender schools or hostels; or

        © in employment, if it is for the purpose of the residential care of persons under the age of 18 years; or

        (d) in employment, if it is based on a genuine occupational qualification or requirement in relation to a particular position; or

        (e) in accommodation, if it is shared accommodation for less than 5 adult persons; or

        (f) in the provision or use of facilities, if those facilities are reasonably required for use by persons of one gender only.

        Interviewer: You believe the artwork can continue to operate under a legal exemption? Which of these exemptions will apply?

        All of them.

        https://mona.net.au/blog/2024/05/interview-with-kirsha-kaechele-about-the-ladies-lounge

        • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 months ago

          in a religious institution, if it is required by the doctrines of the religion of the institution

          How’s she planning to have this law apply? Create a woman-only sect of the FSM?

          • protist@mander.xyzEnglish
            3·
            2 months ago

            I recommend you read the interview I linked above, she goes into great detail about this and frankly it’s amazing

        • over_clox@lemmy.world
          1016·
          2 months ago

          Quoting the law doesn’t make the laws right in any regard. I’m pretty sure that if you asked Picasso, if he were alive of course, that he would heavily protest the discrimination and encourage anyone mature enough to view his works.

          Same typically goes for almost any artist. They didn’t go through the trouble of creating the art only to end up with others saying who does or doesn’t get to view it.

          Matter of fact, did Picasso or any of the other artists leave a will? Or for any of the artists that might still be alive or with living descendants, do they get a word in about it?

          They should.

          • protist@mander.xyzEnglish
            234·
            2 months ago

            She’s not saying the law is right…

            Also Picasso was a renowned chauvinist and misogynist who had affairs with teenagers as a 70 year old and put out a cigarette on the cheek of the mother of two of his children

            • over_clox@lemmy.world
              120·
              2 months ago

              How does everyone know my last name?

              Not all Chauvins fit that stereotype. Would be nice if people would stop using my last name as a broad insult. But hell, I can’t expect discriminatory people to leave my family name out of their mouth.

              That would be too much like a step in the right direction.

                • over_clox@lemmy.world
                  120·
                  2 months ago

                  Nah not really. I’m almost 42 years old and have heard my last name used as a sexist insult my whole life.

                  People that use that word in an insulting manner are sexist. You just used that word.

                  You just did a 2+2. Maybe you should try doing a 2-2, and remove that and other sexist terms from your descriptive vocabulary.

                  It’s not an adjective, it’s a family name.

                  • protist@mander.xyzEnglish
                    15·
                    2 months ago

                    I’m gonna need an explanation for how using a word in context with its dictionary definition is “sexist.” Sorry this is unpleasant for you, but I’ve never come across someone with the last name “Chauvin” and been like “oh there goes that chauvinist.” Lots of last names have entered English as descriptors of things, eg sadism from the Marquis de Sade and masochism from Leopold von Sacher-Masoch.

                    chauvinism (n.)

                    1840, “exaggerated, blind nationalism; patriotism degenerated into a vice,” from French chauvinisme (1839), from the character Nicholas Chauvin, soldier of Napoleon’s Grand Armee, who idolized Napoleon and the Empire long after it was history, in the Cogniards’ popular 1831 vaudeville “La Cocarde Tricolore.” The meaning was extended to “excessive belief in the superiority of one’s race” in late 19c. in communist jargon, and to (male) “sexism” in late 1960s via male chauvinist (q.v.).

                    Anyway, the point is Picasso was terrible to women. Many women.