• BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com
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    Speaking of slow I can’t believe you’re still so confused.

    Your reasoning hasn’t been a secret this entire thread. The only way your comparison even works at all is if white supremacists were as harmless as Muslims.

    Fact is, Islam is a religion that teaches peace and acceptance. Much like other religions such as Christianity for example, there are some sects which go……another direction. But they don’t invalidate either religion themselves.

    Now, let’s turn to white supremacists. Name one “good” white supremacist. Just one who doesn’t see white people as superior to others.

    You can’t. Because there aren’t any. They all think that, because that’s what white supremacy is.

    Your mistake is trying to inject a “good guy” into white supremacists, to make your comparison. There are none.. You’re focused on the violence aspect you forgot what white supremacists actually believe.

    So no, I’m not projecting, and I’m not slow. I just couldn’t believe someone would be thick enough to suggest that there are any white supremacists worth arguing for at all, and now I can’t believe I just had to spell that out for you. Clearly you still don’t see the problem with that, and that’s sad.

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      2 months ago

      All those words but you’ve yet to show that white supremacists attacks are common. It doesn’t matter that they are evil. Lightning is a bigger threat than white supremacists.

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        Did you even read any of them?

        The commonality was never the a focal point of this thread, the comparison between Muslims and white supremacists itself is.

        You’re just diverting focus to an unrelated statistic as a means of both controlling the discussion and avoiding the fact that the comparison between the two is an apples and oranges one.

        If you want to compare the two groups then please provide me of a single example of a “good” white supremacist. If you can’t, then it makes no sense to continue.

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          So now you’re telling me what I ment when I made my original point. Your confidence in your incompetence is quite impressive.

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            Lol look at you trying to walk back your original argument, this is why we can’t have good faith discussions here.

            If you’re gonna make a comparison, make it a good one.

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                The point is grasped, but the point is worthless without a single example of its validity, which you have yet to provide.

                Instead, you just keep going in circles asserting the point so as to avoid directly answering the fallacy of the point.

                This is why conversations in this community always go nowhere.

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                    Why are you stuck on the prevalence of white supremacist violence reportings? We’ve already established it’s irrelevant. For the comparison between Muslims and white supremacists made to have been correct at all, you would have to be able to name a single white supremacist who isn’t a racist.

                    Your refusal to directly address this flaw in the comparison tells me you have no justification for the comparison itself, which is why you can’t stop bringing up prevalence.

                    I’ll be here just as soon as you decide to directly respond. But I guess you just want to keep repeating this circle.

                    Maybe if I repeat it once more, you’ll get it? STG it’s like arguing with a skipping record.

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      2 months ago

      Jimbo picking the worst argument on the planet to make aside,

      Islam is a religion that teaches peace and acceptance.

      Thats not a true fact. Do you know what a jihad is?

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        Jihad is simply one example of my point. Some focus on the lesser, others on the greater.

        Did you know that the Bible also at times views incest as appropriate, or that women menstruating are “unclean” and must be secluded, or that wearing clothes made from two fabrics is a sin? Do all Christians abide by these teachings, or do they interpret these and similar ones differently based on their own sect or individual basis?

        You cannot blame all Muslims for the violent actions of a few anymore than you can blame some Christians for misinterpreting their religion.

        You know what you can do, though? Blame all white supremacists for being racist pieces of shit. That’s why it’s an apples and oranges comparison to make. If you disagree, name one white supremacist who isn’t a racist and I’ll shut up.

        You won’t though, because there aren’t any. Instead you’re just going to deflect again, insult or mock me or accuse me of still not getting it. I really don’t care. I’ll continue asserting that all white supremacists are racists because that’s what white supremacy is, and that that’s a terrible comparison to make that point with because it is.

        Someone else in another comment mentioned something yesterday about “1 in 10 nazis being good guys”. Why are so many people in this community more ok with racist pieces of shit with a track record of killing millions of other people because it’s inherent to their belief system to one sect of one religion that most members don’t even belong to or believe?

        The difference nobody here seems to understand is white supremacists have to be racist. It’s in the name. Muslims do not have to interpret Jihad in a violent context. In fact, the people who interpret Jihad in a violent context is mostly non-Muslim societies, so this just tells me you don’t actually understand the point you’re trying to make.