It’s definitely a shame that reddit is making these changes. The fall of reddit is going to have pretty negative affect for a lot of people.
I’m no fan of corpo platforms—I’d love more widespread adoption of open protocols and software—but I don’t want _users_ to get hurt by the loss.
The decline of Reddit is a great shame. But the model of social media companies needing to IPO and make profit always hurts users in the long run. When Reddit do IPO more decisions will be made that make the experience worse for users simply because the interests of the platform owners will no longer be aligned with the interests of the users. We can’t know how things will work out but at least the fediverse model is new and is theoretically more sustainable.
The more I dive the worse it smells. Willing to bet this situation would be less worse if they just came out and said “Alright guys sorry but we’re banning 3rd party apps”, instead they make more and more lies
My Reddit life started with Apollo 8 years ago, and it will end on the 30th. Thank you
Instead of closing down it would be cool for 3rd party apps to switch to Lemmy but I know it would be a lot of work.
The Apollo dev mentioned something like this but said he is burned out and had no interest in starting a competing thing.
He said that about making a Reddit competitor not about using lemmy API
This makes me so sad, Christian is amazing. I bought a lifetime subscription for Pixel Pals. I’m sure he’s going to do many more great things.
I would love to see a fork of Apollo for Lemmy, call it Artemis. 😀
Seriously. They’ve released the backend code, why not release the frontend too? Open-source is definitely viable, if the developer just lets the project rot, they’ll get nothing from it, but if they just slap the GPL on it and work with the community on a fork, then they would end up leading a nice open-source project. I’d love to see Lemmy gaining a bunch of users too; that’s definitely be nice.
How about we as a community create a repository and maintain it?
The developer would need to cooperate because the code that makes the actual app is currently closed-source.
If they release it under a FOSS license then the community can step in and help maintain the codebase.
Any reason for that to be closed sourced at the moment?
Obligatory “f-ck Spez” and their silly little AI training thing
I think more people are going to quit Reddit than migrate to anything else. Apollo is such an ingrained experience for iOS users that anything else wouldn’t be worth it.
This week has been full-on-crisis mode for us lemmy devs, and all devs of reddit apps. Reddit is not making things easy on us.
Hey, i just want to say that i really appreciate everything you’re doing. Tons of awesome work.
And i know I’m not alone.
Where should i donate? Either time or money or both? Server costs, app dev costs(i know you also develop jerboa), etc.
But really i just wanted to say thank you. We all really appreciate your efforts. I know it’s gotta be overwhelming at the moment so it’s nice to just hear that once in a while. You’re very much appreciated.
Thank you! We’re just glad we can make something ppl find useful in some way.
Here’s our donation page, and there are many other ways to contribute to lemmy too: helping code, writing apps and clients for it, doing translations, and helping ppl get instances set up. Together, as a federation, we can beat reddit and all these US tech giants.
Just donated. Thanks.
where?
The open collective option was easiest for me since it lets you do a one time donation. I’ll donate more later, but I like to donate on my own schedule.
is facebookification a word? I am so sad to see this happen as a long time user of Reddit, been on there for…god, 11 years according to my profile awards. I see a lot of people saying this is the end of Reddit but I have to disagree, it is more like a new age. Reddit will now only be used by people who are fine with getting absolutely fucked with ads and close to nil moderation. I imagine it will be a husk of what it once was - it’ll look the same but I’m sure it will just be repost land. It wasn’t hard to see this coming, but I can’t help but feel a sadness.
Do I need to go outside more? Probably.
RIP
With the Fediverse slowly gaining steam, I’ve been thinking a lot about the structural problems with the big social media platforms of old. I really feel like we set ourselves up for this outcome. Of course Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit were going to let us down sooner or later. We placed our trust in private centralized companies to stay good on their ethics. The moment money even entered the discourse in those spaces, they were doomed to become what they are now. I really hope Lemmy and Mastodon and Frendica and Peertube and the other Fediverse platforms can gain popularity. We have a real chance here to build social media from the ground up, but this time with the long term ethics in mind. I really think this decentralized structure can allow us to keep more transparency and allow for smaller feeling communities to thrive without being subject to tyrannical administration.
Edit: Corrected “momey” to “money”. Really sounded like a weird fetish there, I am sorry. Momey is not entering the discourse in any spaces, thank you very much.
Any time I talk about decentralized apps to friends and family I come across as some kind of conspiracy driven weirdo. I do not understand why decentralization comes across as some kind of extreme radical movement. I’m not protesting or anything, everything else just sucks lol
Maybe use familiar terms? Skip the tech jargon, and go straight to things like “Reddit and Twitter and Facebook are boring old media with crappy apps and adds everywhere; the cool kids are now hanging out on Mastadon and Lemmy”. But you have to really own it.
“Decentralized” means nothing to most people, or worse has been associated with crypto scams, and the stereotypical Bitcoin proselytizer. The truth is, most people can’t handle all that information.
You have to appeal to emotion. Statements like “decentralization prevents interference by third parties… Blablabla” will just go over people’s heads if they can’t relate to an abstract concept. Say something like “My family/friends in /country/ can’t buy anything with their local currency because of hyperinflation, so now they all us USD or even Bitcoin” instead. That will appeal to people’s emotions.
In the case of the fediverse an appeal to emotion might look like “Reddit has just turned to shit. It’s not the platform I first joined. A lot of us have moved to Lemmy and it reminds us of when we first joined Reddit.”
Also, just don’t push the subject. Some people are not ready to follow you. Let people figure out the benefits at their own pace. Otherwise they get defensive, and you’ll do more to make yourself look like a crazy from that place than to convince.
Also there’s two facts that can be used to our advantage: the internet started out non-corporate and decentralized, and it’s the for-profit corporate nature of these companies that’s causing the enshittification. So you can just say that you like stuff that goes back to the old good days of the internet and don’t like being under the control of greedy corporations.
I’ve been a Reddit user for many years. It was a great run but I’m moving here. For now I’m missing quit a few favorite communities but that should improve with time.
If there is even small scale organized move to Lemmy with the best mods and content posters, there won’t be much to worry about. I’d be more worried about moving too fast and destroying the servers/network effect accelerating with the influx of meme spam. You see what happened to just about every large subreddit becoming a low quality content cesspool perpetuated by the hive mind. I love Reddit but it’s hard to watch communities need to migrate to niche or private subreddits.
Right now I think everyone agrees there is no rea Reddit substitute, so Lemmy is the main landing spot. So long as we don’t get bored here conversing with a smaller population, Reddit doesn’t do a complete about face, and Lenny’s servers don’t crash and burn - I think time will help work things out.
I would highly recommend that everyone run a tool like Redact over your reddit accounts. Deprive them of your user contributions if they’re going to play this way.
Kind of disagree… Not that I’m saying don’t but I have Q/A for programming things and other topics that’s years old. Its already been scrapped, and it is useful for others to find even years later.
Yeah, I briefly flirted with the idea of nuking my account, but before I deleted it I would get a comment once in awhile, on a post/comment from years ago thanking me for solving an issue someone was having. And despite how much I really don’t want to continue contributing to reddit’s profits, I felt like having that there for someone to stumble on after hours of searching and smashing their face in the keyboard was worth whatever reddit makes off it. Also I had some wicked burns on some fascist shit bags.
Fuck Spez Fuck reddit.
Reddit will be defunct in next few years
