Nah. If you want to be outraged at Google, at least be correct.
This has to do with Google “collections”, not synced bookmarks. Afaik, collections are a thing you only access on mobile through the google app, this doesn’t even have anything to do with Chrome.
If you run chrome on mobile, for example, you don’t have access to the collections. It’s only through the google app.
Almost certain they monitor collections because they can be shared with public.
They shouldn’t be monitored either way in my opinion as it’s just a bunch of links, but especially not while still private.
Ultimately I don’t think it quite matters if it technically is bookmarks or “collections”, they seem clearly used in the same manner in this case.
I don’t care if you’re mad about it like I said. I just care about accuracy. The person in the screenshot and this thread’s title are both inaccurate.
I didn’t ever indicate I was mad, I simply stated my opinion. We already know it is inaccurate as you shared this in your original comment.
Some torrent sites have been ordered to be entirely blocked in some countries so they probably have to check for them to comply with local laws.
Eh… the ultimate question, what if it’s a collection of CSAM links?
Some moderation is fine, especially when it can be shared pretty easily. This isn’t private bookmarks, it’s “private” bookmark collections.
Edit: For those downvoting, this is the same concept as a private Reddit/facebook community. Just because it’s “invite only” doesn’t mean it’s free from following the rules of the whole site.
CSAM is never an excuse to violate everyone’s privacy.
I hate seeing people implying that it is. It’s no better then Patriot Act B.s that took away privacy in the name of catching terrorists.
When those links are hosted on Google servers, publicly available to anyone handed the link to them?… how is that a private space?
This isn’t reaching into your phone and checking the information you store on it, this is checking links you added and shared with others using their service. They absolutely have the right to check them.
It is a private space when they are not shared publicly
Except that’s not how it works.
If I go into a public park, put up a tent, then start breaking the parks rules, I’m not “in the clear” just because I’m in a tent and didn’t invite anyone else in.
Words used to have meaning, you know. Like, for example, the word “private”.
Private has various meanings in various contexts. If I take you to the private booth at a club, does it mean I’m allowed to slap around the waiter? No, of course not because rules still apply in private places hosted by a third party.
If you want privacy in the context you explicitly mean, you shouldn’t be using anyone else’s hardware to begin with. If you expect any third party company to be fine with posting anything on them, you’re gonna have a bad time.
For example, how many lemmy instances are fine with you direct linking to piracy torrents?
I’d not expect the private booth to have the club’s employee sitting there and waiting for me to do something that is against the rules preemptively.
We mostly argue about semantics, but in this instance you are trying to excuse some very questionable behaviour by companies by saying something along the lines of “well you better go and live in a forest then”. And I don’t think that’s a good take.
For example, how many Lemmy instances are fine with you direct linking to piracy torrents?
Irrelevant, as all content on Lemmy is public in a proper sense of this word.
Yup. As an analogy, we rent apartments but that doesn’t revoke our right to privacy. We’ve decided people deserve privacy even if they’re only renting and not owning. Same should be true when one is renting space online to store things.
Irrelevant, as all content on Lemmy is public in a proper sense of this word.
/sigh
How many file hosting services let you share pirated data, publicly?
Before you start in on “it’s not the same” it absolutely is. It’s private data, which is being shared through a link publicly. Just like bookmark collections.
And once that file has been identified as piracy, it is very often fingerprinted and blacklisted from not only that instance, but all instances past, present and future.
That’s essentially what is going on here.
I guess we test and see whether I get banned.
Also, it’s not the same. A link to a website is not “pirated content”. A link to a website in a “collection” not shared with anybody is not publicly available pirated content.
Why would Google preemptively ban a set of characters that does not constitute a slur and is perfectly legal to exist?
Wtf is a collections?
My bookmarks can also be shared with the public though
I’m not aware of a way of making your bookmarks public through chrome.
Crazy that I had to scroll past 9 other comments to reach this one. Maybe I oughta start sorting comments by top.
This is misinformation. This has to do with Google collections and how it’s a shared platform, so of course google is going to monitor this.
Your private bookmarks are fine. Relax.
Still, you shouldn’t use Chrome or any Google products if you can help it.
the only two things that shock me about this is
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That it took until now for it to happen
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that people are shocked by it.
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Google keeps taking L’s and firefox keeps taking W’s. If they keep going maybe firefox will be most used browser again
I hate that I have to keep chrome on my machine because some sites I visit don’t work well, or at all, on Firefox.
Use brave
That’s just chrome with a hat on and does nothing to help reduce the encroachment of Google as the internet’s sole provider
But it is more private than chrome and makes heavy modifications for privacy/freedom’s sake it is definitely better than actual chrome if you have to use something chromium based
it’s literally made by an adtech company. you’re falling for marketing hype
seeing as no one has delivered proof so far i would argue that thats not the case.
i mean one can literally check for themself (even i, if i could be bothered)
firefox doesn’t do this
Either does Chrome probably. This is probably fake
it’s their private property !
Is this just chrome? Or does this affect all chromium browsers? And yes, I already use FF, but I also use Brave for when FF doesn’t work.
It’s about synced bookmarks. Do any browsers besides Chrome sync through Google?
It’s not about normal synced bookmarks in your browser, see other comment.
Is this an old screenshot? The email looks like a screenshot of a screenshot, of a screenshot, etc.
fake, visit the site, there is nothing there.
That’s not now the internet works. There was something there. See: https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/katcr.co
There is nothing on katcr.co and today is the second time someone posted that url, bot
How’s the internetting going, champ? Did you figure out how the wayback machine works?
Ok, so you are actually new to the internet. I’ll explain, human to human, human.
A domain name like reddit.com or katcr.co is a registration someone gets for a period of time, at least 1 year but sometimes more than a year. One year, a user can purchase katcr.co and put up their personal website, because their name is Kat Crosby, and they are a company - katcr.co fits so they buy it and put up a site for a year or two. Life happens and they abandon the site. The domain becomes available again. Someone purchases katcr.co and makes a cookie business for a few years, abandoning the site. Someone else buys it later when it’s available and makes a bittorrent site out of it, runs it for a few years. the domain gets siezed and they can no longer use that domain. The katcr.co domain becomes available again. no one buys it.
Someone said they used to go to katcr.co years ago, someone else chimes in and says “that site doesn’t exist, you’re a liar”, and then someone with more understanding of the internet sends an archive.org link.
Why archive.org? It’s the only site that does this thing.
What is the thing it does? It will, and has over the years visited websites and saved snapshots of it. Archiving it, if you will. You can then go to web.archive.org and enter the domain name of any site and it will send you to the link you’ve been given a few times. This link is to a page that shows all the times archive.org has captured a snapshot of that link. It allows you to view that page (usually just text, usually missing a lot of content like images and external files) as it was at that time.
In this case, the existence of the link immediately disproves your argument.
In other words, you’re entirely wrong. Both about katcr.co being fake because it’s currently not online, and also about me being a bot.
I’m sorry, WHAT?
How long until Android starts blocking access to websites.
I really do not trust these large tech companies.
No no no you misunderstand
They’re helping you avoid evil bad superungood pages that don’t have the right security levels.
Maybe their SSH cert is for the wrong site!
Maybe their SSH cert is just too old.
Or maybe, heavens forbid, they dont even have an SSL cert?! Heavens to Betsy what shenanigans.
Sometimes web pages spread malware. Sometimes they even spread copyright protected materials without the the rights to do so! Maybe we should start helping you avoid copyright infringement!
My cell connection blocks some pirate sites. But I’m not using for that purpose, but the second my phone does it is the second I stop using that phone.
I guess it’s just DNS level blocking. If you don’t want any blocks, switch to Cloudflare DNS. If you want a customized experience, you can create a free NextDNS account which allows for 300,000 queries/month. It also has many pre-existing blocklists for ads and trackers. You can try that out for free without signup with a temporary 7 day account, just click on “Try for free”.
Or choose some other DNS provider.
chrome can E2E encrypt your bookmarks, I didn’t realize it wasn’t used by default
E2E encryption is only (potentially) effective if the threat is a MITM. If your threat model shows any possibility for your threats to be on either end, it is effectively useless.
Now I’m not saying that you should model Chrome as a threat, but I’m certainly saying that you also can’t be certain you don’t need to. The whole thing is closed source, the publisher is a Machiavellian megacorporation; and if I were Google, and had to spy on users for profit, that’s certainly where I’d start. You know, as anonymized metrics, to “help improving Chrome”.
Edit: oh and, I haven’t checked what they mean by that, but potentially, the E2EE is meant in the context of the transit only, meaning the data at rest is not encrypted, on your computer, or on the Google servers.
under “keep your info private”, this is different than encrypted in transit. I mean I guess they could be lying 🤷♂️
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Some of those people really said 💀
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Good thing I’ve been using Raindrop.io to manage my bookmarks for years because I used to switch browsers so often. I’ve settled on Firefox for the most part, but am looking forward to Arc on Windows.
Is there a self-hosted version or alternative? This looks solid, but I’ve been trying to self host as much as possible
Here you go, comrade:
https://awesome-selfhosted.net/tags/bookmarks-and-link-sharing.html
I chose Linkding because it’s simple to set up, I’m looking forward to Omnivore when it’s a bit more easy to self-host.
doing the Lord’s work out here, cheers
Op you’re so easily fooled
I’ll switch immediately.
