as other’s have said, console makes pretty good all purpose media center unless you are a high end electronic waste snob.
The article states that the PS5 is responsible for significantly more gaming hours, so a large number of PS4 users are likely mainly using their device for streaming or similar. Hell, I still have my PS2 and 3 in my closet since they’re my only dvd and blu ray players.
the PS5 also has reletively low game ownership rate, so the hours on PS5 are either games given for free/part of subscription, or free to play.
No wonder either, there are strangely few games meant just for the new system, and it’s been out for several years.
this generation is odd because the effects of covid are still being felt.
With or without covid, development times still got to be too long, and fewer games are the natural result of that.
I have yet to buy a PS5 because there isn’t a game I want yet. Also, Sony tends to release improved consoles with lower price points and smaller footprints after a few years.
For some reason that doesn’t surprise me. When I got a PS4 there were like at least 10 exclusives I wanted. This gen seems it’s mostly remasters and remakes. So ignoring that Sony games come to PC now it doesn’t even meet my criteria of number of exclusives to justify picking one up.
If any of you guys have a PS4 lying around gathering dust, consider jailbreaking it. Depending on the firmware, it is pretty easy to do and opens up a lot of possibilities. Surely better than being neglected :)
Edit: Firmwares up to 11.00 are jailbreakable as of recently. 11.00 is from around late 2022, so if you have a console that hasn’t been in use since then, there’s a good chance you can jailbreak it. Base model, Slim, or Pro - doesn’t matter
What kind of possibilities?
Well, obviously piracy if you’re into that. Apart from that, using cheats for games, dumping your physical games and having a permanent copy you can use without the CD and an active license (probably possible with a digital game too I assume? not sure), applying patches like a 60fps patch for Bloodborne, emulation of PS1, PS2, PSP and a bunch of other consoles etc etc.
Running Linux if you’re that kind of person :P
Nothing too surprising, but nice nonetheless. Cool
Best uses of a jailbroken one?
Well, obviously piracy if you’re into that. Apart from that, using cheats for games, dumping your physical games and having a permanent copy you can use without the CD and an active license (probably possible with a digital game too I assume? not sure), applying patches like a 60fps patch for Bloodborne, emulation of PS1, PS2, PSP and a bunch of other consoles etc etc.
Running Linux if you’re that kind of person :P
Piracy is interesting. Are the HDD replaceable. Could you add a NAS.
The HDD is replacable and afaik, you can insert an SSD too. Not sure about the sizes, but an internet search should point you the right direction.
Not familiar with NAS. Isn’t that some kind of server?
Thanks ill Google it.
NAS is Network Attached Storage. Typically a rack of drives connected to the network.
Bloodborne 60fps
Sadly, only around 40ish fps on a base model but very cool nonetheless. The framerate and semi-smoothness kinda puts it in an uncanny valley territory for me since it looks smoother but also not smoother at the same time coming from PS5 performance. Lies of P runs a lot better in comparison even though it’s graphically more demanding, I assume
It requires an old-as-hell 9.0 firmware or below, right?
Actually not anymore. There’s been a recent breakthrough that led to a new exploit up to 11.00 being possible now. 11.00 is from, like, late 2022 I think? Obviously not an option if your PS4 has been in regular use recently, but I lucked out and got an 11.00 console from a friend of mine who hadn’t been using the PS4 for a while.
If you’re on a newer firmware, there is no way of reverting back to 11.00, unfortunately, unless you’re up for some soldering.
It feels weird to phrase it like this. I didn’t buy my PS4 11 years ago. I bought it 5 years ago.
I use mine to stream TV shows 🤣
I just recently bought a PS4 for $150. So being able to play most modern games (with the exception of any new games 2025 or later) is a pretty good deal :)
Yeah, I’m planning to get a PS4 or maybe PS4 Pro as well. It’s a great deal considering the large library of games, many of which can be bought physically for relatively cheap.
There’s only a handful of games who really need the PS5, no surprise.
I’m over here in the corner enjoying the metal gear collection on my PS3
Why oh why is MGS4 the only one not on any other system? It can’t even be streamed on PS4 or 5. 😩
iirc it’s a “fault” of the PS3 architecture which makes it practically impossible to emulate. We’ll have to see if the second part of the remastered MSG collection will eventually port it.
Well I don’t see why you couldn’t emulate it on a ps5. People are doing it on pc so I guess it’s more that Sony doesn’t care and don’t want to invest in it.
It’s one side where Microsoft is better than Sony, retrocompatinility.
I’m still playing a lot of ps4 and ps3 games, so I hope my ps3 is gonna stay fit for purpose in the long term 🤞
Something to keep in mind: Official support for the PS2 was only 12 years. The PS4 is now at 11 years.
It will most likely have a longer officially supported life than the PS2.It’s definitely easier to have that degree of support when you’ve got a common architecture now. There has never been a console generation before this where you had literal years of overlap with games releasing on previous and current gen, because it didn’t require much extra work to maintain additional versions. They were already doing that with the “Pro” consoles before anyways.
Hell, PS4 players are even still going to get the highly anticipated Shadow of the Erdtree DLC for Elden Ring in a few weeks.
I sure do. A lot of it is Beat Saber, but it is quite a lot.
I’ll get a PS5 in like, 4 years. Maybe. If I find something I absolutely need on it.
Been horsing around in rdr2 for the last couple years here. No real need to up it
I really don’t regret buying my ps5, but I could totally still be on ps4 as I’m mostly playing games from the previous generation or available on it.
But at one point, there’ll be quite a few games which wouldn’t be able to run on ps4. The question is when.
I also feel like we don’t need to have more beautiful games than Last of Us 2, so I hope one day we’ll stop focusing so much on better looking games.
I also feel like we don’t need to have more beautiful games than Last of Us 2
Remember when FarCry was released, and people were compairing the ingame screenshots with real photos? We all thought “Man, this is it. It can’t get any better than this”.
I remember feeling this way about the cut scenes in Dante’s Inferno on Xb360.
Well I’m not against games becoming more impressive visually per se, but against the fact that because of this games are becoming way more expensive to produce and companies are now risk averse.
But yeah I might have said « this is it » in front of quite a few games 😅
I certainly did that with Gran Turismo 6 on the PS3
GTA 6 is looking to be the first title that will need the newer hardware. That’s all I can think of off top.
Yeah probably. Cyberpunk was another example even if it came way earlier in the lifecycle.
I don’t support a company that decided to increase price instead of reducing it. Also PS games are expensive. Then there was also non available and you had to put yourself on a year long waiting list, when at then end I said “nah, I don’t need it”. It’s Sony’s own fault I don’t have a PS5 yet.
To be fair on the price increase thing, this is the first time in the history of video games that the cost to produce the hardware went up over time.
And inflation is insane nowadays.
Personally I’m gonna stick with my desktop and Deck
Well, it was insane in the middle there. Maybe it’s worse where you are, but in the US, it’s back almost to where it’s supposed to be.
Maybe but that doesn’t mean that the value of currency has returned to where it was. Unless there has been some deflation that I’m not awake of.
No, there hasn’t been, but there is a distinction between currently experiencing high inflation and previously experiencing high inflation in the middle of a hardware product’s life cycle.
Yeah and don’t forget that even with the inflated price, a ps5 is cheap compared to a pc as powerful.
No it’s not. PlayStation costs money if you want to go online, PC not. PlayStation games are a lot more expensive than on PC and you lose access to your gamed with every new generation unless you want to store your old console. Also generally PC sales are much deeper then on the controlled PlayStation store. To believe your console is cheaper is really not true.
On PlayStation you can still buy second hand games because of the disc drive. I don’t know if PC still have a blu-ray drive anymore.
You can still get a lot of new games on ps4 which is a cheap console.
I guess that for some people having a gaming pc is cheaper, but for me having a ps5 and a weak pc is cheaper.
It depends on the user…
Why should the PC not have a blu-ray drive, it has all the freedom a console lacks. But I don’t remember the last time I needed one, because I can get just a few month old games for 5 bucks. So I didn’t even bother buying a drive. I buy games for 45 bucks while on console they cost 80 and more, on release day.
Yeah add the cost for the week PC on top, another reason why PC is cheaper, as you’ll likely need a PC regardless.
Not playing online would be the only reason why PS is cheaper and if you buy no games and only lend them from others. Price of PlayStation plus PS+ gets you a good PC if you use it for 5+ years, which most do.
Maybe if you see it that way. But just thinking about how much you need to upgrade your PC or tinker with it for everything to work is too much for me.
I already don’t like the fact that on ps5 you have to choose between performance and fidelity modes, so imagine if I had to choose settings on a pc.
Also on consoles, you just know a game is gonna work perfectly, which is not always the case on pc.
But PC is better for some players and console are better for some others.
I sometimes consider jumping to PC gaming, but I see too many inconveniences for now.
I have a PC for all my games except one, Bloodborne. I have a PS4 and that’s the only thing I’ve used it for.
I have a PS5 and I still do because I can’t afford $500 for the PSVR2 upgrade and I like playing Beat Saber.
