• reddig33@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    It amazes me that primaries are held this late in the year. It’s only four months or so until the election.

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      3 days ago

      The Dem presidential primary still has like two more months.

      Biden and his pick for DNC chair set the date, they could have made it whenever.

      They choose after the deadline to get on all 50 ballots for some reason.

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      Only in America. Other counties campaign for a few weeks. The US turns it into a 12 month fund raising and media spectacular, with primaries at the halfway point.

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        A while back, HR 1 For the People Act promised to remedy much of the issue but it never got a vote in the senate because Republicans held the Senate Speaker until the next congress was formed.

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          And because, having gotten back in power, Dem leadership didn’t take it up again as they too are getting rich from the current system.

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            Same reason Biden is talking about a potential tax on the rich but won’t ever be caught talking about repealing the Trump tax raise on the working class that actually happened.

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              The Trump tax cut expires next year. Biden has promised not to renew it if he’s reelected.

              Get informed.

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                  You should probably not be asking smug rhetorical questions when you don’t actually understand how the federal government works.

                  Use a search engine, educate yourself.

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                  It was an act passed by congress and signed by a sitting president. Biden alone doesn’t have the authority to change it, and if he did try that then it would be caught up in courts for years.

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            TBF, after the 2020 election they were faced with issues like budget reconciliation and debt limit (without which nothing would be voted on at all during a government shutdown) as well as reimplementing some of the many regulations taken down by the Trump admin and finally passing a 1.9 Trillion Dollar infrastructure deal alongside a new round of stimulus checks (which the receiving states decided how to use, sadly), and many congressional hearings about corruption of the former administration and federal judges (which ultimately hasn’t lead anywhere other than referrals to the DOJ).

            So in the 2 year span that they held 48 + 2 senate seats and house majority, they were pretty tied up I would say.

            EDIT: Plus, it would’ve been filibustered anyways.

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      Massachusetts has not held its Senate primary yet either. I had to check, it will be on September 3rd it seems.

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      Why make election season much longer than needed?

      Printing ballots can be done quite quickly.

      And is 6 months of campaigning really better than 2 months?

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          Well no, it’s better for the politician’s campaign’s wallets. If people could spend campaign funds however they wanted then Donald Trump would have quite a few less pending felonies.

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            First of all, there’s TONS of ways to enrich yourself by running for office without technically breaking any of the very flimsy campaign finance laws. That’s why people with literally no chance of winning keep running for public offices up to and including the presidency.

            Second of all, the FEC, which is ALREADY as toothless as a nonagenarian who never brushed his teeth due to chronic deliberate underfunding and understaffing, has an EXTREME backlog of cases from having lacked a quorum for the better part of a year.

            Third, even if the FEC was otherwise effective, this is TRUMP we’re talking about here. He’s getting away with TONS of campaign finance fraud and legal misuse of donations as is.

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        Ffffuuuuuuucccckkk no its not better. It’s just that our system predated most parliaments, and as such the founding fathers made some stupid choices that made it utterly impossible to amend basic quailty of life changes for our democracy.

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          Just in the spirit of pedantry, its not really true to say that the US system predated most parliaments.

          Like, maybe its technically true now due to the expansion of democratic and republic systems in the post-colonial era, but parliaments in Western Europe were plentiful and long-established in 1776.

          The first American government was notable in that is was completely divorced from a hereditary Monarch, and I don’t wanna downplay that, but a system in which a representitive body of land-owners is elected by an enfranchised class to decide policy and even pass legislation existed in, for example, Iceland since the 10th Century, Catalonia since the 12th, England since the 13th. It was arguably the standard during the enlightenment in Europe.

          My two cents, the US system does seem to be remarkably inflexible. I guess it’s complicated to unpack why exactly, but a combination of myth-making, bad-faith originalists, and the sheer size of the country probably all play a part in it

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            The process to amend the constitution. It’s all but impossible given modern politics, and that’s largely been true for 50 years and counting.

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                Our election cycle cant be curtailed or shifted because our constitution can’t realistically be amended to match the saner policies in other countries. When our constitution is so antiqued that that “money is speech” becomes the law of the land, there is a core problem with the founding document itself.

                How it that not related to our election cycle?

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                  Because a constitutional convention is so wildly unlikely it’s just distracting from any actually helpful suggestions.

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    I mean, no shit. Didn’t she win her first election with 89% of the vote or something

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      Yeah, having to listen to Steve Innskeep gleefully break the news of Bowman’s defeat on NPR this morning was not a great way to start the day.

      And of course NPR frames it as confirmation that voters support genocide, not that AIPAC uses GOP money to sabotage the Democratic party. Their reporting is getting worse and worse by the day.

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          They’re pretty bad on Israel, yeah. All Things Considered is particularly terrible.

          Innskeep and Mary Louise Kelly get me pissed of more than anyone else. Or Ayesha Roscoe. They’re all terrible interviewers.

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    fuck moderates, we’re fighting for our goddamn lives and the life of American democracy. We got no room for both-siders.

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      Yeah:

      “We need to freeze the border and send that message to the world to stop the death and casualties along the way,” says Dolan. “The Republicans are right on this issue. But that doesn’t make me a Republican. No party is right on every issue.”

      On his campaign website, Dolan who has served as managing director at banks including Lehman Brothers, Morgan Stanley and JPMorgan Chase, puts the city’s current plight thus: “Bail reform a disaster, the National Guard in the subway, toothpaste locked up in drugstores but criminals running free.

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/06/17/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-primary-challenger-marty-dolan/74074419007/

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        “Bail reform a disaster, the National Guard in the subway, toothpaste locked up in drugstores but criminals running free.

        Umm doesn’t the State have a bigger hand in that instead of the Federal government?

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        It’s hilarious to me that 40 years ago this person would have been solidly Republican. Now he’s a “moderate Democrat”. This term now means “conservative that doesn’t like Trump saying the quiet part out loud”

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          A lot of money has been pouring into propagandizing liberals in big progressive cities about crime specifically. Trying to promote a crime hysteria. And then part 2 of that plan is to recall the progressive politicians and elect in Republicans who will claim to fix everything.

          It’s had only modest success in actually electing Republicans so far but I get the sense it’s a long game. People have absolutely bought into the “crime is at an all time high” lies.

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    In the rest of the world. A 66 year old investment banker would be considered right wing

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    Moderate? Marty Dolan is a full-blown conservative. Why do we keep pretending like being a Democrat means you can’t be a conservative? The DNCs entire top brass is conservative. It’s a conservative party by objective international standards.

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      Because the Overton window in the United States has many people viewing fascists as friends and anyone further left than center right as “extreme left wing socialist communist Nazi terrorists”.

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        I hate it when ignorant people conflate Nazis and communists. I have argued with so many dumb people who think that the Nazis were a Socialist party, when the exact opposite is true. These people probably think that the DPRK is democratic, too.

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          It’d be like thinking the Democrats and Republicans are arguing about whether America should he a direct or representative democracy.

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    Good. Anyone described as a “moderate” in the US is actually a conservative at best. Anyone described as a “conservative” is actually a fascist at best.

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      I hate this divisive bullshit. Democracies require pluralities. You need to be a big tent party to govern.

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        Reality check: Repubs are trying to elect an insurrectionist promising to be a dictator. I’m sorry facts are divisive, I don’t like the situation either.

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          Sorry. how does AOC defeating democratic moderate in a primary impact a republican getting elected. I don’t think moderate D’s or voting R on the presidential ballot. A moderate Democrat is still voting democrat.

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      It seems many described as “left” in the USSA are conservatives too.

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    An article about an election without any numbers. How tight was the race? How many people voted? We will never know. In fact, the whole article contains no information that wasn’t known beforehand. Probably written beforehand and just put online by a timer as the result was not surprising. News media is going downhill faster and faster.

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      The ones laughing at Bowman’s loss? Yeah, I’m sure they’re crying so hard tonight

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        After what happened to Jamaal Bowman. Not a fucking chance.

        Oh, did people pointing out the unfair latitude given to your favorite genocidal nation make you upset? Whoops.

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          I’d rather not give them even that level of attention.

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        You could argue that AIPAC is partly responsible for the mess we’re in, as well as other PACs. So, I don’t think that they will stop. Hell, one could hold that stance while voting for questionable politicians on their side. You just gotta make sure that the threat of being primaried remain.

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        Why? We get to tell the truth and apparently deeply bother you all at once. Seems like a win-win for everyone but you , and you don’t matter.