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      yeah lol, maybe the headline means he is just aligning with the progressives, not that he is one

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    Don’t know that it’s the right strategic move for Biden to step down over a poor debate performance, but if he does, please remember, everyone - this election is a matter of voting against fascism. Get out there regardless of the Dem candidate. Remind your friends and family. And for Christ’s sake, vote AGAINST the fascist.

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        There won’t necessarily be a fascist-sympathetic major presidential candidate every election, but yes, they’re a constant threat from here on out.

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            A corrupt corporate crony. There is a difference - the corrupt corporate crony is the manure; the fascist is the weed. One helps the other (and not vice versa, as every corporate crony eventually finds out in a fascist regime), but they aren’t quite the same.

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      100% would be disastrous to step down.

      1 candidate supports roe v wade ( and a bunch of other common sense shit) the other doesn’t. Simple as.

      The media circus surrounding it made me feel bleak as fuck however.

      Bidens north Carolina speech was better imo

      “I may be old but I tell the truth.”

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      I’m not voting for anyone who supports what Israel is doing in Gaza.

      If the Democrats want my support, they’ll have to replace Biden with someone who’ll stand up to Israel. Otherwise, my support is going third-party.

      If Trump wins, that’s on the people who voted for Trump. It’s not on me.

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        voting is not enabling. you have a right to your position, but i encourage you to consider the material outcomes of your actions rather than just the exterior aesthetics of it. :)

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          And I would like everyone in America to consider the material outcomes (genocide, environmental collapse, corporate oligarchy) of voting for the Democrats instead of voting for the Greens.

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          That is some twisted mental gymnastics.

          American munitions are being used to rip apart Gazan children as we speak. Biden supports it. Trump supports it.

          People who vote for Biden are supporting it. People who vote for Trump are supporting it.

          The only ones who aren’t supporting it are the people voting third-party.

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            That is some twisted mental gymnastics.

            Sorry that looking at the actual consequences of one’s actions and not “What I want to happen” is twisted mental gymnastics to you.

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              No, you’re trying to make me responsible for other people’s actions, and that is fucked up.

              If Trump wins, that is the fault of the people who voted for Trump.

              If you want to use mental gymnastics to blame it on other people, why not say it’s Biden’s fault for supporting genocide.

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                No, you’re trying to make me responsible for other people’s actions, and that is fucked up.

                No, I’m making you responsible for your own actions in voting to allow fascism. Sorry that you think that’s fucked up. Maybe you can try not voting to allow fascism.

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                  Is this the Democrats’ strategy? Acting entitled, as if they’re owed votes, and any voter who wants better is a traitor?

                  Good luck with that strategy.