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    This isn’t democracy. If ending genocide was actually a choice on the ballot instead of two ghouls who both support genocide, I bet most would vote to end genocide. What we actually have is a representative system where we’re told that we vote in politicians who represent us, but in reality they represent the plutocracy and the plutocracy wants genocide.

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        Thinking most people would be against genocide is spreading misinformation?

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                You didn’t look at your own poll last time and you didn’t look at it this time either. Here, let me point it out again, this time with a screenshot:

                Oh, would you look at that, only right-wing conservatives and republicans edge out in favor of giving aid to israel’s campaign of genocide. For some reason you think we should be catering to republican fascists. Are you sure you’re not the one who is the fascist? You love using projection like they do and you insist that “most Americans” support fascist policies.

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                  It’s amazing that you post the screenshot and STILL don’t read it correctly. Here, let me remind you of what you originally said:

                  If ending genocide was actually a choice on the ballot instead of two ghouls who both support genocide, I bet most would vote to end genocide.

                  Thinking most people would be against genocide is spreading misinformation?

                  But fascists aren’t well-known for their stunning memory of what they said in the past ten minutes either, so that’s not a surprise.

                  Of course, the fact that you explicitly advocate for voting for a genocide of American minorities makes this position, in context, utterly unsurprising.

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                    If ending genocide was actually a choice on the ballot instead of two ghouls who both support genocide, I bet most would vote to end genocide.

                    Thinking most people would be against genocide is spreading misinformation?

                    No contradiction there. The former is a statement of well-documented fact and the latter is an incredulous reaction to your bizarre claim

                    Of course, the fact that you explicitly advocate for voting for a genocide of American minorities

                    The FUCK are you babbling about??

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                    As I pointed out months ago, your poll is from february (older than my poll) and more people have been turning against israel as their campaign of genocide drags on. Even disregarding that, it’s interesting that you’re trying to paint a one percent difference between the favors and opposes as “majority of Americans”, giving more importance to fascist opinion even though this is a difference within a margin of error and, again, this is a poll from february when israel has been losing support. You really shouldn’t be lobbing accusations of others being fascist when you elevate fascist opinions like this.

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                In what universe isn’t disapproval of Israels actions opposition to genocide?? That’s literally what they’re doing that people disapprove of!

                At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.

                Some people still incorrectly think that Israel isn’t inherently a genocidal apartheid state, so they want to support them in general, but want the genocide to stop.

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                  At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.

                  Okay, let me remind you of what started this little conversation. The other guy saying

                  I bet most would vote to end genocide

                  So you wanna explain how

                  At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.

                  Groks with that?

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                    Yes. Most people want to vote for the outcomes that they prefer and most people want the genocide to end. Ergo most people would vote for an end to the genocide if given the opportunity.

                    In the minds of these people aiding Israel will either stop the genocide or not necessarily have an effect on it. They’re wrong, but still against the genocide.

                    It’s simple logic that REALLY shouldn’t be so hard for you to understand.