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The never do. Despite the system constantly being corrupted in the opposition’s favor, they just roll over and talke it. IMO it’s a money problem. The big donors want the ROI, and big businesses are dictatorships. Those dictatorships align more with fascist/conservative policies more than they do liberal so democrats don’t want to upset the big business donors by inconveniencing their profit stream.
A reminder that Trumpy candidates to run against is what some Democrats wanted:
https://www.axios.com/2022/06/28/democrats-colorado-primary-ron-hanks-joe-odea
I’ll admit it. I was one of the people who loved it when Trump started rising in the polls. I’m far from a Democrat but I believed that he would be the easiest Republican to defeat. I was so very wrong and my whole view of my country has changed since 2016.
I mean this strategy is how we got Trump in the first place. Zero lessons learned.
just imagine this with other existential threats. “a meteor the size of the moon will crash into the earth in 5 months if we don’t do anything. so please vote for the meteor kindly changing course. btw current polls show that the meteor has higher approval rating than I do so please stop that too”
He’s only a threat in so much as they can turn it into political donations. The rest of us, on the other hand, see an absolute menace ready to implement fascism. But Dems are ok with just having scary news articles and no real action.
Biden’s speech was infuriating. Just came out and basically said “This is bad. I’m not going to do anything about it. This is just the way it is now so I hope we always have good presidents from here unto eternity. Good bye.” and then doddered off stage.
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The pompous condescension completely undercuts any point you were attempting to make. I hope I end up the opposite of whatever you are as I get older. Have a great life.
The pompous condescension completely undercuts any point you were attempting to make.
Centrists use pompous condescension when they don’t have a point.
Honestly you guys are fucked, Even if Biden scrapes a win these are going to be the stakes every 4 years until the US turns into a dictatorship. Fuck knows how that’s going to affect the rest of us around the world in the long run.
I disagree with this, I think the Republican Party is waning and they’re now in the sweet spot where they have a large enough base to enact a fascist takeover but not enough to win by appealing to the electorate. If they aren’t able to change the rules in their favor in the next couple cycles I think they become further marginalized and lose their chance.
That’s not to say we won’t face a similar problem again after we have a party realignment, but I do think the GOP specifically has a limited window in which to seize power.
Yup, as the weak-willed establishment Republicans realize the insane people can’t win anymore, they will turn tail and bail on them. Then the shitty people can go back under their rocks and moderate conservatives can come back into power. Hopefully the Democrat’s constituents can get ranked choice voting through so this doesn’t happen again. Then we can get critical thinking education spread and the lunatic fringe right-wing wond be able to live here anymore.
As long as corporate capture isn’t addressed fascism is only going to get worse. We’re angry that our politicians have sold us out. The dim ones will listen to the guy that blames their inability to have a decent life on immigrants, gays, trans, taxes, regulations, ect.
I agree with you there, but I think the upper class is going to increasingly push their agenda through the democrats rather than the republicans, and I think the republicans though perfectly willing to sell out will regardless lose power if they can’t seriously cement their hold somehow.
One thing that might save us is if Trump dies without managing to get elected. A sizable chunk of the GOP’s base are people who worship him specifically, and if he were gone it might splinter them. But it’s hard to know how that would play out for sure. The situation is definitely very, very grim.
My friend… My poor confused friend.
TRUMP IS NOT THE ENEMY, simply a symptom of a greater disease: the FEDERALIST SOCIETY in addition to our FASCIST OLIGARCHY.
When Trump dies, none of this will go away. NONE OF IT.
Regardless of his importance, Trump is very much the enemy, as are the other things you mentioned. Hopefully I’ll get the chance to find out just how important he was after he’s gone.
They will just turn to DeSantis or whomever. If you can be sure of anything, be sure that Project 2025 has a list of contingency candidates.
Cults of personality don’t work that way. They don’t get replacements. They can try, but they’re not likely to reach a critical threshold of votes. They may not even reach a House or Senate majority, and Project 2025 can’t go ahead at the federal level without all three.
And while asshole despots like DeSantis are a dime a dozen, Trump is unique in his absolute lack of shame or any kind of self-awareness whatsoever. He won’t stop, ever, unless someone physically makes him.
Exactly this. Also, MAGAs are weak-minded followers types. If their leadership falls, they fail permanently. They are still scum, but they are as they have been for years, squirming under rocks…where they belong.
Best-case scenario is when Trump’s gone, the MAGAts can’t agree on a replacement to get behind. A lot of Trump’s base are people who hate the government, including the GOP, and only vote because of him. We’ll see what happens with them eventually.
DeSantis flopped miserably the last time he tried. The ones that are diehard GOP supporters will indeed flock to whoever is thrown at them, but the GOP has tied themselves to Trump because he has a cult that they rely on to get enough votes to win. It’s been 20 years since they’ve managed to get someone other than Trump elected.
Maybe, but Trump unifies the left just as much. If Trump died, how many on the left would continue to hold their noses and vote Biden?
Trump is just the face of the problem. The real threats are the organs; much deeper inside and far more protected than the face.
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It’s the chicken/egg of politics, really. Does Trump represent his base or does his base represent him? Do politicians campaign on the wishes of their constituents? Or do their constituents develop their views based on their politicians?
really? you’re really not sure if a bunch of protestant christo-fascists are cruel and oppressive by nature?
He is indeed a symptom, but he’s also something more, a cult leader. You’re right that the rot will be there regardless, but the GOP needs every single person willing to support them to vote to stay in power. There are a lot of people who specifically worship Trump, not the GOP.
He’s also a complete moron, therefore easy to control. And lord knows there no shortage of fools that’d line up to replace him. No, the problem runs much deeper than Trump.
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Yes and no. Do you honestly believe that the GOP likes being attached to him? By all accounts, most people who have to work with him hate him. But they just can’t get rid of him. If he were that easy to manipulate and replace, they would have done so long ago, to get a more predictable stooge. No, there’s something about him specifically that they need, or at least, they think they do.
It ain’t just us pal, open your eyes and notice all of EU is falling to these same goddamn fascists.
Yes, but at least European countries have more than 2 parties, making them more resilient. It also makes it easier to kick the fascists out of power after they got in.
Fascism is very much growing in Europe as well, but the situation is not as dire.
Not all of the EU. Some countries have managed to recover from a far-right party taking control even, like Poland’s “new” coalition that took power back from the far-right PiS. I know it looks rough when you’re looking at monsters like Le Pen making gains, but Europe still has a chance.
where are you from friend? and I agree, we’re fucked 🍻
Yup, sorry my dudes.
Biden was talking about golfing with the guy…THAT was his big fuck up that night.
More that he spectacularly failed to even land the words, and gave Trump the high road position. Millions of people saw Trump tell Biden that they should be adults.
I think the immunity ruling of yesterday ended the U.S.'s checks and balances against a King, Monarch, or in more modern terms, the Unitary Executive. Overturning Roe Vs. Wade was the Judicial Branch warning shot.
I predict that in the future the U.S. will have a new revolution, but it’ll probably be at least a century away. “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
Sure, just watch the debate and see whose cognitive function is still intact. Clearly, it’s not Biden. That was the most embarrassing debate I’ve ever seen.
I don’t know how anyone can hear a single sentence out of Trump’s mouth and think he’s cognitively in tact.
Trump doesn’t have to be cogent to win his supporters over, he just has to be violent.
Just like how Biden doesn’t have to be lucid to keep the loyalty of his supporters, he just has to not be Trump.
Biden can’t even put together a single sentence and this is the guy you want running as president? Bro can’t debate past 9PM.
Name checks out.
Trump hasn’t been able to debate past 2004. Every single sentence out of his mouth since before his first 2016 campaign has been either gibberish or lies. I’ll take a doddering old man over a pathological liar every time if those are my two options. Not to even mention Trump’s extremely obvious dementia and extremely obvious fascist tendencies, racism, sexism, 34 felonies, convicted sex offender, on tape saying he’d like to fuck his daughter, on tape partying with Epstein, on tape committing voter fraud, can’t stay awake at his own criminal trial, moans and complains and cries at every little thing that hurts his widdle feewings…
And this is the guy you want running for president?
And everyone around him is doing a great job and not bringing about a christofascist dictatorship ruled by an atheist narcissist compulsive liar real estate millionare…so yeah, the best of two options. I don’t care if the face-man is old, I am voting against project 2025.
Trump operated within the lines of democratic institutions. Y’all really throw the word ‘dictator’ around like candy. I really don’t think you know what a dictator is.
I’d tell you to read the Mandate for Leadership 2025. But you’d probably agree with it.
Want? You seem to be confused. If I had a choice between a cold soggy grilled cheese and Trump, I’d take the grilled cheese.
Biden gave answers that made sense, Trump lied and said we abort already-born babies. Jesus fucking christ, you must be braindead.
If he’s such an existential threat (and he is), why the fuck are they not forcing the geriatric incompetent running on their ticket to drop out? They’re sleepwalking into fascism and it’s terrifying.
Because the most popular alternative is Kamala Harris, but there is no evidence she would do better against Trump.
I stand that Kamala’s best chance is to hold the ship steady as is, and then ask Biden to resign in December or January.
There’s a lot of racists out there. I feel like if she’s at the top of the ticket, she’s gonna get dragged down. Biden truly is serving as an effective shield for her. Either way, Kamala is the implicit vote if anything wrong happens to Biden (which I admit is increasingly likely given his age).
It makes no sense for Kamala to rush to the top of the ticket given her position.
Wasn’t this always the angle, even when people called his age out last election? The argument was that Kamala Harris would step up, and that Biden didn’t want a second term.
Given Harris’ recent comments in the press regarding stuff she’d fix “if given power”, I wonder if she’s even on the VP card this time around? IMO, AOC might be a smarter choice for VP, since the left love her and the right loathe her. She’d bring a lot of younger disenfranchised people back around, and that might be enough.
Biden never any public or official statement about only serving 1-term, in fact when that story started circulating, the official response from his campaign was to say that they were not ruling it out.
There’s a lot of racists out there. I feel like if she’s at the top of the ticket, she’s gonna get dragged down.
This is just preemptive cope to avoid having to reflect on whether the Democratic leadership and its preferred candidates are actually the thing that needs change, and she’s not even an actual candidate yet. Kamala’s biggest problem is not that she isn’t white. Obama was a Black man, but he had heaps of charisma. Kamala has all the charisma of a plate of lutefisk,and people flat out do not like her. She is also irrevocably tied to Biden and his legacy, likely to her detriment amongst the crowds you would most worry about not voting for her because of her not being white.
Most polls put her on par with Biden. Dataforprogress.org has her leading when “fitness” and “strength” are brought into question, but that’s the only poll I’ve seen where she has any lead at all.
Polls of 1000 people are stupid.
My semi-secret conspiracy theory adjacent theory is it’s intentional. That not all, but many, of the Democratic national party is in bed with the same big businesses paying off Republicans, and they’re prepared to pull a Hindenburg and install the very fascists they claim to resist once they can no longer hide their betrayal.
I also do think it’s primarily a money issue. Some of it might be those donors wanting the two parties to do different things, by basically leading the democrats into their graves.
Not a fan of the article throwing leftists and activists under the same bus with the Democratic party. Also rich how the author claims activists aren’t acting like it is an existential threat but they are dumb for not endorsing Biden.
Joe can do it!
For the people who are actually on the DNC rules committee and run the party, the DNC is their social club they want absolute control of. They only participate in elections to fundraise so that they can run ads and take a cut of the ad spend to fund the party and their own lifestyle. If anything, a Trump dictatorship, as long as it allows fundraising and ad spending in “opposition” actually benefits them just fine. And if there’s no possibility of them winning, only the most glassy-eyed cultists remain in the party so no more internal dissent, which is perfect for them.
They sure aren’t. IMO, If Biden doesn’t attempt to exercise his new presidential powers, the Dems will be partially responsible for the fascism that follows.
Seems you forget that an extreme court gets to decide things now. He doesn’t have the powers unless the court says he does.
Better to act first than wonder if you have permission. Take the action necessary, let the courts hash it out months later after the election is over. As long as it’s an official action, there should be no problem.
I was wondering how his hands would be tied this time.
When it comes to the Democrats and* the left* — from the Biden campaign on down to the activists
What’s with calling out the left on this, when the closest they get to a leftist organization they take issue with is a climate advocacy group. The left has been pretty clear that Biden is not the man for the moment since the go, and for our troubles, we’ve been called everything from stupid and naïve, to privileged white people who don’t care about insert minority group here (and ignore that not all leftists are rich, white people, there are plenty of POC active in leftist politics, though critics, often privileged white people themselves, do love to erase their existence in the same breath they claim to be looking out for them), to either useful idiots or fully cognizant agitators working on behalf of enemy states. Centrist Democrats and liberals have been the ones trying to tell anyone who will listen that the same old play will not just be good enough, but is actually our only option to win, and they’re trying to leave the left to take the fall for their mistake, yet again.
Some of it is political calculation. If the president steps aside, the logical candidate is Vice-President Kamala Harris, but Harris has struggled in office and her poor poll ratings mirror those of Biden. If the Democratic Party tries to sideline Harris and open the door to other candidates through an open convention, they risk alienating her and her supporters and opening up further wounds in the Democratic coalition.
What, risk all four of her supporters? Oh, darn, there go the chances of winning ever again.
Democrats are not going to win with a staid campaign by the usual corporate boot-licking line of candidates they’ve relied on up until now. The sooner they accept that and get behind a candidate who is pushing for systemic changes on issues that actually resonate with your average Americans and the problems they face in their daily lives, as opposed what matters only to their donors, the better for them this time around. Heck, if they actually follow through and make some of those changes, even better.
