• MyPornViewingAccount@lemmy.world
    59·
    9 months ago

    If we’re being truthful, Satan is supposed to be punished in hell too, its only modern works that portray him as the one ‘ruling’ and dishing it out to people in hell.

      • flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz
        111·
        9 months ago

        Biblical Satan is a role, not a person. I’ve seen it translated as “opponent” or “rival”. Something like a “devil’s advocate” in catholic church - person or entity who tests somebody’s faith.

        And Lucifer is again a completely different character, not related to Satan until much later.

        • XEAL@lemm.ee
          4·
          9 months ago

          “opponent” or “rival”

          Aaand that’s the interpretation The Church of Satan takes. They’re atheists and don’t believe in Satan as an entity.

        • orphiebaby@lemm.ee
          21·
          9 months ago

          Not a bad take, clearly can be read that way in the English. But I don’t read Greek, so I can’t tell you one way or the other.

        • Johanno@feddit.de
          21·
          9 months ago

          I didn’t read the Bible fully but as far as I know there are only very few mentions of satan/devil and stuff.

          666 the number of the beast.

          A story about a guys faith and a bet between god and the devil.

          The fall of lucifer the angle (not linked to either above)

          And maybe the devil is mentioned in a few more sentences but not more.

    • LifeBandit666@feddit.ukEnglish
      281·
      9 months ago

      If you listen to the Yazidis he was sent to Hell for defying God by not bowing down to us humans, his greatest work, despite God telling Satan to never bow to anyone because he was made of God’s essence rather than us, made in his likeness.

      So he went to Hell for 10 000 years until his tears put out the fires of Hell, then God forgave him. He also rewarded him for honoring his original pact with God and was given Dominion over Earth.

      He took this Dominion and gave us Humans “Knowledge” like the Serpent in the Garden of Eden, only the Knowledge was of Farming.

      Thing is, the Yazidis live awefully close to what is thought to be the birthplace of Farming.

      When asked to describe Satan, they described him as a Peacock holding a sheaf of Wheat in it’s beak, the same image found in Gobekli Tepe, which is thought to be a shrine that taught Farming to the world.

      Hail Satan.

      Edit: this is just my understanding after reading an article or 2 on the subject, I’m probably wrong about loads of it, but it’s all just stories anyway so who cares?

      • QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        9 months ago

        Well that concept isn’t in the Bible and even if it were then 1667 would still be somewhat “contemporary” compared to when the Christian scriptures were supposedly written. Of course I say all that as if any of it is real or matters anyway lol

  • SuperDuper@lemmy.world
    34·
    9 months ago

    Floods, famine, plagues, etc are all God’s work. Sex, drugs, and rock & roll are Satan’s work. I know which one I’m going with.

    • cm0002@lemmy.world
      17·
      9 months ago

      We’ve only ever heard the story from one side, Satan is probably actually super chill and just wants to party

      • Gorvin@lemm.ee
        5·
        9 months ago

        In the words of Jim Jeffries “If you disobeyed gods rules, why would Satan punish you? If anything, you’re one of his boys”.

        Since the bible was written by god’s people, it’s way too biased when saying God is good and the Devil is bad.

        Show me Lucifer’s side of the story and I bet he’s the more reasonable person.

      • Holzkohlen@feddit.de
        1·
        9 months ago

        Wider den deutschen Kulturimperialismus! Spaß. Als nächstes bitte Mettigel in die Memes verpacken 😄

      • kraftpudding@lemmy.world
        11·
        9 months ago

        Ist Michael Mittermeier Atheist? Bin jetzt nicht super mit seinem Programm vertraut, und er nacht sich glaub ich schon hin und wieder über Religion etc lustig, aber meine mich vage zu erinnern dass er zumindest christlich geprägt ist.

        • Hofmaimaier@feddit.deOP
          11·
          9 months ago

          Meine Wahl lag einzig und alleine an seinem Gesichtsausdruck, dieses schelmische grinsen. Von seinen früheren Programm meine ich rausgehört zu haben das er nicht die gläubigste Tomate auf dem Strauch ist, aber was und ob keihne Ahnung.

  • ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social
    113·
    9 months ago

    Unfortunately this doesn’t really faze Christians at all because many of them believe that God is the source of all that is good, and so by default anyone who worships God is also good by default, and of course this logic follows that anyone that doesn’t worship God is evil by default.

    Also, barring that, just because Satan punishes bad people doesn’t make him good. He punishes bad people because he’s jealous of God’s love for Humans, and he hates them for it. He’s more of an antihero I guess if you really wanted to paint him in a somewhat good light.

  • uphillbothways@kbin.social
    6·
    9 months ago

    As concerned as most christians seem to be with punishment of those doing some imagined wrong or another, wouldn’t that sort of mean they’re following in their supposed satan’s ways and tenets.

    • DreamButt@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      you’re missing the point. There are a slew of contradictions in christian dogma that don’t make any sense at all. People who “punish” people are typically the good guys in stories. Take a sheriff in a western for instance. They chase the robber and throw them in jail as a form of punishment. The meme is just showcasing an example of how religion faulters under critical examination

  • SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml
    31·
    9 months ago

    Im neither a Christian nor a bible expert but i thought satan was just one of 7 deadly sins and not the punisher of bad people? Wasn’t there an entity called “the devil” that is referred to as satan and/or lucifer but is basically an entire different entity to lucifer and satan? Also isn’t hell a general place of suffering/redemption and the deadly sins are just luring people there?

    That’s how i understood it. Didn’t read the bilbe tho, only got this from references and random fun “facts” over the years so it could be completely wrong