• ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Lots of misconceptions here.

    1)military industrial complex jobs employ hundreds of millions of Americans, so it’s not like we don’t get something for our money.

    1. most of the defense budget is spent on pay, pensions, training, maintenance, etc. Only about a third of the military budget is spent on weapons or weapons research and only a fraction of that goes to foreign wars. Meanwhile the maintenance of US nuclear weapons alone exceeds foreign the average annual military assistance spending.

    2. the national debt is irrelevant. It’s all imaginary. It will never be paid off and that’s fine. We could just say it is 0 tomorrow and it wouldn’t make a damn bit of difference in anyone’s life.

    3. the only reason every American doesn’t have healthcare, shelter, food security, and a home is simply that it is not profitable to do so. Capitalism is the problem, not foreign war spending. Even if we put 100% of our foreign war spending into these problems it wouldn’t be enough to fix even one of them. We have to tax the rich.

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      9 months ago

      This is a roundabout argument for funding foreign wars, or, more specifically, exorbitant defense spending.

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        9 months ago

        It’s more a statement that funding foreign wars has no negative effect on the economy and does not deprive Americans of any government services. Their morality or whether they are good policy is another discussion entirely.

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      9 months ago

      1)military industrial complex jobs employ hundreds of millions of Americans, so it’s not like we don’t get something for our money.

      This is what you, still, do not understand. All of the money spent on manufacturing weapons for other nations could be spent improving life for Americans here.

      You would only have a point if these nations were paying for these weapons. Which they are not.

      This is literally taxpayer money being funneled to defense contractors so they can give weapons away to nations like Israel. They have enough wealth to buy our weapons. We shouldn’t be giving them away for free while the Americans who paid for them go without higher education or health care.

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        9 months ago

        There is not the political will to improve the lives of Americans. Half the country wants to eliminate Social Security, Medicare, Obamacare, public education, welfare, and basically all “entitlements”.

        In 2022, the US has given $3.8 billion in military aid to Israel. What the US spends just on maintenance of its nuclear arsenal could fund Israel at that level for 20 years. Just one F-35 fighter costs about $30 billion.

        All this is not touching on the reasons we give aid to other countries. In many cases the aid protects our economic interests and saves us money in the long run. Take Ukraine for example. The war is weakening one of our major military competitors, which means they are less of a threat to us and we do not need to maintain as many defenses against them.