Oooh that’s a tricky one. May as well ask what’s the best curry!

I actually favour tvp (don’t buy in colesworth, more than 8 bucks a kilo is criminal extortion, get it in 10 kg bags online) or black bean burgers.

Try these:

• https://theeburgerdude.com/vegan-burger-patties/#recipe

• https://thevegan8.com/easiest-black-bean-burgers/

Also colesworth/aldis etc will extort you on the price of lentils/legumes/pulses. I’ve seen dried beans costing as much as 10 bucks a kilo lmfao. Check out Indian and chinese catering grocers or bulk sellers online (shipping varies, keep that on mind). Pre recession my price was 2 bucks a kilo for most of my bulk protein sources, now 4 to 8 but that’s capitalism baby.

Butchers don’t want you to know this but kidney beans beat cow on protein content gram for gram. They’re also cheaper and more ethical.

Meat is a luxury good, in both the financial and moral sense.

Eh, this is a little simplistic. While it is indisputably true that you have to look at per capita emissions and that chinese manufacturing makes loads of the stuff made that second point needs more exploring.

Because capitalism is a garbage, nightmare system manufacturing gets sent, in general, to the cheapest manufacturer. The fantasy is this represents the most awesome, magical, and clever business but IRL it usually has more to do with loosest tax, safety, and environmental laws.

So you can’t view the manufacturing as some selfless sacrifice of emissions, there may be government policies in play meaning idk dirty power is really cheap or whatever.

I basically think country vs country is a fucking stupid lens to view this through in general, because for all some fakelandian business might dump uranium in a river fakelandia is probably the way it is for reasons that non uranium dumping countries aren’t guilt free in.

our global system has produced these problems, not moustache twirling villianous defectors.

do you have concerns about buying American stuff? I mean the usa just got outed running an antivax campaign to kill Asian people while hoarding vaccines.

States aren’t your friend yo

This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. It’s almost into not even wrong territory. I think you should contact a philosophy department and ask them why they haven’t considered this.

Eh, mostly I’m just pointing out how stupid this is to anyone with half a brain in their head.

We have animal rights legislation and morals for reasons, and nobody who like protests whaling gets criticised for not growing fake whale meat. You might disagree on where the line should be but it’s just outing yourself as someone with underdeveloped theory of mind if you don’t understand why people might feel strongly about it being further down the tree of life.

I consider myself a flexitarian, I adopt puppies, give them a good life till they’re about 2 years old, then humanely slaughter them and eat them. The stuff I don’t eat I backfeed to the next round of puppies.

I am so with this post, what I do is so much more sustainable and humane than anything that happens on a farm. Extremists harrassing me should fund lab grown meat instead. Really this is more ethical than eating beans because of crop deaths.

It always feels weird to me when we talk about the Australian political establishment having some influence on human rights.

Domestically the government runs media blackout concentration camps, we have ever increasing police state laws, disregard climate change action (human rights is a massive component of why).

Obvs it would be great if nation states stopped doing tyrannical nation state stuff but umm what’s the angle of the Australian Parliament here?

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Everyone involved in this, anyone who followed these orders, needs to hang.

I’m not raging I’m Australian.

If you want to keep farming animals frequent pandemics are the price 🤷‍♀️

There’s no fucking antenna that pops out of people’s heads and overrides their thoughts when considered in abstract. That’s Murdoch rag level of boomer bullshit.

Idk what broken arse society you feel like you’re from but humans everywhere work towards the collective all the time. You try to come up with some derranged “actually we don’t support the vulnerable” because propaganda about costs is written about and yet even in the face of that people continue to not attack each other in the streets. Oh capitalism is cannabalism is it? fucking derranged take but even so you just conveniently ignore how that system is enforced by a tiny minority and billions of people struggle against it or try to tame it. Oh climate change inaction huh? yes sure if you judge us all by the fucked up leaders of states but what about all the protests? what about all the climate scientists? The journalists writing about? what about the fact that greenwashing is an effective marketing strategy?

Like I’m sorry that Shazza and Bazza on the street don’t know how to tackle massive structural issues but it is absolutely a lobotomised take to think that means they’re not decent creatures.

“The masses” are just individuals. You sound like a 20 year old who just discovered atheism and started reading the paper.

you need to spend less time online and more time talking to your neighbours.

neither are the people claiming humans are, as a herd, fairly dumb and incredibly selfish

wtf? by what standard?

Humans frequently band together during disaster, humans care for their young and old, humans don’t typically engage in cannibalism of the weak, humans rarely fight to the death or even serious injury, we live in cities of millions with astonishingly low rates of violence etc etc

where is this terrible selfish stupid behaviour? what standard are you comparing the species to? we’re more violent than orangutans but they’ve never set up water sanitation so I think we can call ourselves smart and we’re less violent than chimps or gorillas… are you comparing us to fictitious ideal beings or what?

Humans are wonderful. Not always good, not always reasonable, but wonderful.

We are rich, nuanced, vibrant beings. A small portion of us are defectors but by and large we are community focused and willing to give when we feel we are not being taken advantage of.

Unless you think all your friends, yourself, and your family are garbage it is inconsistent to assume a random sampling of humans would not display the same prosocial traits you find in them.

The one thing we are incapable of doing though is handling power.

Yeah. I am not a Buddhist but I’ve always found something rings true in the reflections on impermanence. When we bond with someone we accept the pain of loss, and when we feel it most people seem to describe relief once able to “let go” an accept it being over.

It seems to me that encouraging clinging and reminiscening stunts you a bit and only really provides temporary relief of the loss while drawing out the time it takes to process it.

Idk though, maybe I’ll have the misfortune to feel differently some day. It’s hard to judge someone hanging out with their spouse watching death creep closer each day. I have approximately zero idea what my opinions would be in the face of that.

My wife is fortunately still alive so maybe that colours my view. However when I’ve lost other people the blessed anaesthesia of forgetting has been essential in being able to function.

From the short quote it seems like she maybe has a healthy-ish attitude but idk… I feel like this would be a shallow simulacrum that prolongs grief.

AM but it can just write bad sonnets about hate and make up shennanigan maximising answers to questions.

old mate is a legend. Protect your homeland with pride.