• Excrubulent@slrpnk.net
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      3 months ago

      Oh wow… vote manipulation how? Like using alts or something else? How do you detect this? I am so curious now.

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        3 months ago

        no clue of how. i just noticed a suspiciously symmetrical jump in the numbers and i reported it off a hunch. i wasn’t at all sure until my admin dm’d me to confirm i was right (i assume admins can see the IDs and times of votes and triangulate off that but that’s just a guess)

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          3 months ago

          Super interesting, I’ve heard often you can catch cheaters more in the data than in the specific act. So do you mean that you just noticed the sudden +4 / -4 jump? If they all came from the same IP address then that would probably be enough, I guess.

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            3 months ago

            yeah i just saw a good dozen or so comments across a few threads with a very obvious +6/-6 gotten within a few minutes where there had ben no votes before. im sure if you plot that data out compared to real activity it becomes pretty clear there’s something fishy. and an IP would certainly help too.

            again no idea what kind of mod tools lemmy has this is all just conjecture on my part. but quite interesting!

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              3 months ago

              Actually looking at those mod logs it looks like a bunch of “davi” accounts across multiple instances. I guess it was just alts.

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              3 months ago

              Fascinating… this is what i feel this thread had happen. Some of these comment chains had tankies downvoted and sanity upvoted by 3+ margins that mysteriously flipped to 6 point margins the other way within only 3 hrs. And the sheer amount of comments on here ballooned as well. I know they follow some of us around. They can claim theyre arguing one thing or the other, but its always to spread FUD and push non-voting or third party voting in the states. Its all about fucking up our election to install our own shitty dictator before our demographics in the country shift so hard the gop never get a chance to take the oval office ever again.

              If u point that out ahead of time, tho, they mass downvote u and act like ur a conspiracy theorist.

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                3 months ago

                to be clear, it was just the one guy @Maeve@kbin.social from my knowledge. they were just arguing (badly) and presumably got fed up with the downvotes and wrangled in their alts.

                i don’t see evidence that there is more than one individual doing vote manipulation in this post at this time. not saying it doesn’t happen, just speaking in fairness.

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                  3 months ago

                  This is true, but how could one as not an admin see direct evidence? Im just saying what ive observed.

                  Maybe ur right that it is just one individual, but if so, then it means there are far more angry tankies/shills on here than in the opposite scenario im postulating exists. Not sure which would be more disheartening.