On Wednesday, Maine’s legislature passed a bill joining a compact to commit all of their electoral votes, regardless of who won in their individual state, to whichever candidate won the national popular vote.
I don’t live in a swing state and I feel disenfranchised. My vote for president, for all intents and purposes, does not count in the current electoral college system.
I can’t wait for the compact to go into effect. Turnout in so many states would increase a lot.
However, my optimism is tampered by this supreme court.
If anything, living in a swing state makes it count more
I swear the word “don’t” was added in later
Literally what that person just said. They said: if they vote against the US district or state majority then their vote didn’t really do anything.
See the guys other comment. Seems they accidentally added the “don’t”
You mean to say they edited it in later? Because your comment makes no sense otherwise.
That’s what I meant, yes.
Wow, long thread about it. By the way, I didn’t add the “don’t” after your comment. I just fixed a typo from “I can’t way for…” to “I can’t wait for…”. The “don’t” was there all along. You may have missed it. But no worries. I think we are all on the same page here.
Yeah, I wore that eight hours into a 12 hour graveyard shift. My brain was not fully functioning and I just wanted to inform the guy that you had updated your comment
This brings the total electoral votes joining the compact to 209. Michigan will join soon, bringing it to 225.
270 electoral votes needed for the change to take effect. We’re getting there.
I didn’t think “getting there” is going to happen in our lifetime. We’re just going to hit a ceiling where “obviously blue” states join, and the rest don’t, which will hit before 270.
There could be some purple states where the stars align and this passes, but yeah, at least a generation, probably more
Even once they “get there” the battle really starts. Interstate compacts must be approved by congress, which this never has been.
Not a great solution. We need ranked voting. Not perfect, but significantly better than the 2 party shitshow we’re currently saddled with.
Maine already has ranked choice voting for statewide elections. They can’t fix the national system.
If the hack to at least give the person with the most votes the Presidency wins, then maybe we can work for ranked choice for Presidential elections.
Weirdly Maine is/maybe was the only state that did ranked choice voting. But it also kinda sounds like this new system supercedes it.
https://www.maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/upcoming/rankedchoicefaq.html
Fantastic, the electoral college is closer to retirement!
Good job Maine. Abolish the electoral college.
Yup, sadly it’ll never gain enough momentum where it needs to. It’s like the ERA all over again
It’s literally pending in enough states to be enacted nationwide. If only 270 EC Votes get pledged to the popular winner then the popular winner gets the presidency every time. As long as it doesn’t die in a committee then it could be up and running before the 2028 election cycle.
That’s not true. All states added up it’s under 210
It’s officially the law for 205 votes, it is pending vote in states adding up to 101, for a total of 306. And mind you, 5 states joined in the 2 year period before the 2020 election.
Do you realize how many bills are pending votes lol? Marijuana legalization is pending votes all across the USA, doesn’t mean I can light up in the Deep South anytime soon
So, how is this more democratic AND Nebraska doing away with EVs by congressional district less democratic? Is making the winner based on less granular vote or more what we want?
The goal should be making the national popular election the deciding factor in a presidential race, Maine is moving us closer to that goal, Nebraska is not.
The national popular vote is like being the team that had the most points in a 7 game series instead of the one that won the most games.
Because Trump bullied them into doing that (or tried to)
We don’t care about consistency if it means the turd sandwich wins over the giant douche.
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Unless Maine also repeals their use of instant runoff voting for the presidential election, their own votes won’t count toward the national popular vote. The compact makes no provision for counting ranked ballots, and there isn’t really any fair way to do so anyway.
I thought I heard the Supreme Court struck this down already somewhere maybe it was a state Supreme Court
Must have been, I don’t think a case has made it to SCOTUS about this
All well and good right up until it works against you… Everyone points to Gore and Clinton, but imagine what happens the first time a Democrat loses under this system, there will be riots.
If a democrat loses under this system they will have lost fairly.
Yes, and that won’t stop the rioting.
Why do you think that is true? The only violence from people unhappy with a presidential election that I can think of is the MAGA insurrection in 2021.
This just fucks over the people of Maine. Call me when first past the post is eliminated or Citizens United is repealed. Until then the US is a pseudodemocracy.
It doesn’t fuck over the people of Maine. The pact only goes into effect once a controlling majority of electoral votes are pledged to the plan. Once that happens, the electoral college is functionally eliminated, and the President will only ever be the winner of the popular vote.
Technically the electoral college isn’t eliminated, it just makes it so the votes go the the winner of the popular vote and not the gerrymandering. This would put every state on an equal footing and no more red state/blue state nonsense. People disillusioned by the current system can begin to feel like their vote “actually counts”, and maybe drive more people to actually participate in elections “where every vote counts”.
EDIT - Sorry themeatbridge, we are saying the same thing. I read your reply quick and thought you stated it was eliminated, not just functionally eliminated which is a big distinction that would require a lot more effort.
Functionally eliminated isn’t the same thing as eliminated.
No gerrymandering affecting the presidential election sounds nice, still though
