Not just ANY bail bond joint, “A 2nd Chance Bail Bonds” in Atlanta.

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    People often say they’re just waiting for him to flip on Trump. Giuliani is broke, Trump disdains him, etc…

    The prosecutors aren’t interested in what he has to say. There are better witnesses, more reliable witnesses who have corroborated all the facts already.

    The prosecutors do not need this shell of a man to flip.

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        If he flips it’ll be hilarious watching him mouth vomit all the shit trump has told him.

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      This. Trump is the main culprit and threat, so he’s priority.

      But taking down a corrupt former mayor? That’s a feather in anyone’s cap too.

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        Plus, Rudy isn’t exactly a credible witness. He’s told so many lies, so many different versions of events, and he has proven he’s willing to say anything to save his own skin. The defense would tear him apart on the stand.

        The only way he gets a deal is if he can provide hard evidence the prosecution doesn’t already have.

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          100% this. He’d be a laughable witness against drumpf and all drumpf’s lawyers need to do is to cast reasonable bout in his testimony, There are a few obvious ones, like substance abuse, habitual lying, leaked tapes, financial embarrasment, etc. There’s also always a chance he’d make the whole process a clown show by sprouting off random ramblings and conspiracy theories on the stand. Drumpf’s attorneys could also easily push all the blame to Rudy by invoking the advice of counsel defence.

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      At this rate they don’t need anyone to “flip”. At the end of the day these morons got busted doing illegal shit and there is more than enough evidence that they don’t need someone else’s testimony. Flip or not then are fucked.

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        Lmao no, no one of his bootlickers believe in him. Not even Gaetz. When push comes to shove is everyone for themselves. Although, the Four Season Landscaping fiasco (still get a good laugh at that one) make me question his sanity.

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      To quote Giuliani himself, He has insurance, and knows where the bodies are buried. There are likely extemporaneous contemporaneous notes of items of interest

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    He deserves all the ridicule in the world for this, as well as anyone else involved in this scheme to overthrow a duly elected government. I will gleefully watch this trial and not feel bad about enjoying it whatsoever.

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    If he really has to use bonds man, things are not looking to good for him. At this point he has to consider whether cooperating is the better option or not, right?

    It seems to me that this will escalate rather quickly between them.

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      Yeah, he’s out of money. Trying to sell a house for 6.5 mil. Begging Trump for cash which isn’t coming.

      Only a matter of time…

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          As soon as he realizes the RICO charge carries a 5 year MINIMUM sentence and he’s 79 years old… If he goes up, he’s never seeing the outside again.

          That’s just one charge against him, he’s got 12 more after that…

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            He knows. He practically invented it.

            So he’s probably really eating shit now he’s getting charged under it.

            Now where’s my popcorn?

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            Rudy is done for if he doesn’t flip and flip hard. Trump will be a much more difficult fight but if Rudy showed up with receipts it would totally change the equation.

            Zero chance Rudy doesn’t spend time behind bars if he doesn’t make a deal.

            If I were trump I’d be ensuring I keep guys like him real close. He knows the whole story and could blow the case wide open.

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          What sucks about this whole system is that it relies on financial leverage. Imagine if you couldn’t hide from prosecution with enough cash. Or, imagine for a moment he’s innocent. He’s not, to be clear, and literally nobody believes he is, but imagine somehow he was the one guy in the corner of the room saying “Ya know, this is a crime and I will not be a part of it.” Innocent people are frequently ground into pulp by the justice system. Not Rudy, so I don’t have any sympathy for him specifically. It just feels icky to cheer as the orphan crushing machine is used off-label to crush people who deserve it for a change.

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            In that case he could have quit, or reported the ongoing crime to the FBI.

            Like, he’s not a manipulated teenager with nowhere to go, and if he “wanted nothing to do with it” he should have separated himself from it

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              That’s not my point. I’m not saying he’s innocent. I’m saying he’s getting the shit end of the justice stick, and while I don’t feel an iota of sympathy, I do hate that our justice system has a shit end.

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                He could have saved himself a lot of trouble by turning early or A CrAzY iDeA, if he didn’t commit the crimes.

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                  Dude could have retired as “America’s Mayor” and gone door to door in the USA getting high fives. But the thing is, he was always a piece of shit, we just didn’t know it.

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      At this point he has to consider whether cooperating is the better option or not, right?

      That would be the smart option, not the Republican one.

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      Prosecution doesn’t need him. Rudy has lied and contradicted himself so often you simply couldn’t put him on the stand. His testimony would be impeached within minutes. So his only value would be if he could provide background information that wasn’t available through other means. Well they have all of his electronic devices (18 from his apartment alone!), all of his texts and emails, what else can he offer?

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    Uh-oh. He isn’t rich anymore. According to Trump, that means he’s automatically a loser. Guess he won’t be getting any support from the orange guy anymore, not that he was getting much.

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      While it doesn’t automatically mean that Giuliani sees the money, Trump is apparently having a fundraiser dinner for him. So maybe he does have something on Trump, still.

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          I think (and am deeply saddened by it) that many people would go just for the proximity to Trump, not because they care one way or the other about Giuliani.