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      “If Biden is a bad person, it’s okay to let millions more be murdered by literal fascists. I Am Very Moral”

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              Oh, so now I AM in a position to criticize the candidates that represent me, AND do so, but it’s… what, disqualified because I also defend them from the charge of being the MORE genocidal choice that will cause millions more deaths?

              All-in or all-against, is it?

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                If you say “genocide is bad, we should stop defending it” and also “it’s understandable that Biden has not stopped defending it”, have you criticized him, or defended him? Is that a net-defend or a net-critique?

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                  It’s a “Know what you are realistically going to be able to extract in this situation considering the current opinions of the general electorate”, but I guess being realistic comes second to condemning millions of minorities to death for the sake of feeling good about yourself.

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                    He doesn’t realize that US military funding of Israel has been paused many times - including by Biden - as a lever to try to force change. That funding is the leverage we have over Israel. Fully halting it eliminates that leverage, and then what?

                    Also, the GOP has put forward legislation to remove the ability of the president to pause those deliveries, which also eliminates that leverage in a worse way. Biden has said he would veto that bill, by the way.

                    I’ve mentioned this before, as you well know, but it deserves mentioning again here. The fact that you can criticize Biden and there’s an outside chance he’ll listen makes him the better candidate than the guy who listens to nobody on anything that’s not about how to make him more money, with disregard to whether the money-making scheme is legal.

                    Edit: Let’s also not forget that the guy who listens to nobody also uses literal WWII Nazi language at his presidential campaign rallies, kind of all the time - along with an ever-increasing litany of repugnant behaviors, any one of which would have immediately halted any other political campaign in its tracks. But let’s not ever criticize that; it’s all the Democrats’ fault.

                    I’ve also said that the people who bark about this, only ever criticising Biden and Democrats, are either foreign propagandists or wholly taken by them. I stand by that statement.

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                    I think actively denying what the electorate can see with their own eyes is what condemns minorities to their death, not condemning my government for assisting in genocide.