“the guy deserved it” should never be justification for a state to kill someone. Even if you think capital punishment is justified, it should only be after a fair trial. And, if someone has a capital punishment sentence against them, that’s only valid within their own borders.
If you violate a country’s monopoly of the use of force within their own borders, that’s a step on the path to war.
What’s interesting is that India has been claiming the guy is a terrorist for years, but never really gave specific examples of what made him a terrorist other than his spouting separatist beliefs (which maybe is enough in India to arrest someone?)
But they also don’t seem to have bothered to even try to extradite him, which seems telling in itself.
Have you seen the extradition request? Who told you India has not given proof to Canada? He is wanted in a bombing and multiple killings. A simple google search will give you the case no. and relevant details for his involvement in such crimes.
Not only that, but Canada has proven its firm hand on this. When China went apeshit after Meng Wanzhou’s arrest in Canada to extradite her to the USA, Canada stuck to its guns. Even after two Canadians were taken hostage by the Chinese government in a retaliatory arrest, Meng stayed under arrest with her extradition going forward, while the rest of the world (including Modi’s India) politely looked the other way rather than angering China.
India cannot possibly claim they couldn’t have gotten results from Canada if they’d gone through the legal system.
I am talking about history and how it tends to repeat if you don’t correct the mistakes, the mistake Canadian Govt. is making again by shielding these terrorists, just because they need NDPs support to keep their govt running and it’s a shame how bais plays into it, just because you don’t want to believe violent separatists are terrorists it doesn’t mean they aren’t.
Alleged is an important word here and India has already shared files with evidence to Canada in multiple individuals (including the one “alleged” to have been assassinated). Why is Canada not supporting India in these investigations? just because it needs NDPs support to keep in power, Canada is siding with terrorists and their sponsors.
Canada did not stick to any kind of guns, but was ordered by USA to kidnap Huawei CEO’s daughter, so that Trump could play around with China using Huawei as a “bargaining chip”. The way Meng was house arrested on airport by RCMP for about 350 days, despite Huawei having no faults regarding HSBC’s transactions with Iran, only tells Canada is like a little chained puppy for USA.
The Huawei situation riles me up as having been someone who loved Huawei pushing the smartphone industry for many years, to where we are now, with a feature-rich camera app with timelapse, first to invent night mode, 40+ MP camera sensors, pixel binning tech, 10x periscope zoom, 4000+ mAh batteries in flagships, focus on large camera sensor size, amazing back designs and numerous other things they have done. If not for them, these other companies would have kept us stuck to 2 shitty cameras, 3000 mAh battery and subpar computational camera processing. Even Pixel’s HDR+ and Night Sight were highly “influenced” and derivative of Huawei’s innovations.
If you think this is fanboy defense, you can freely assume that since you are deluded. Each of those things I mentioned have carried over to every phonemaker over the years, and have received praise from everyone. Talking about innovations is not fanboyism.
And all the Indian news outlets are claiming the guy was a gangster and that this was a gang-related shooting. Meanwhile the local Winnipeg police are just like “Uh, we have no evidence on that as of yet and have made no statements about that, where the frick are you getting this claim from?”
Yeah, I updated the headline to make it clear that the allegations were by India, because people were rightly pointing out that “alleged Khalistani terrorist” was giving them too much credit.
That’s more or less my point. We’re all flawed. I’m just questioning our ability to be self regulating. I’m also questioning the use of the word “deserve.”
Regardless if the guy deserved it or not, killing them in a country you are supposed to be on good terms with is not the way to go about it.
At this point India is barely even trying to hide it.
Also, the guy in question was a Canadian citizen.
That doesn’t really matter. What matters is that he was in Canada at the time.
I can see your point, but still feel that his being a citizen compounds the issue.
“the guy deserved it” should never be justification for a state to kill someone. Even if you think capital punishment is justified, it should only be after a fair trial. And, if someone has a capital punishment sentence against them, that’s only valid within their own borders.
If you violate a country’s monopoly of the use of force within their own borders, that’s a step on the path to war.
Yeah, extradition exists
What’s interesting is that India has been claiming the guy is a terrorist for years, but never really gave specific examples of what made him a terrorist other than his spouting separatist beliefs (which maybe is enough in India to arrest someone?)
But they also don’t seem to have bothered to even try to extradite him, which seems telling in itself.
Have you seen the extradition request? Who told you India has not given proof to Canada? He is wanted in a bombing and multiple killings. A simple google search will give you the case no. and relevant details for his involvement in such crimes.
The bombing that happened when he was 8, or was there another one?
Let’s see them, then. Show your work.
Not only that, but Canada has proven its firm hand on this. When China went apeshit after Meng Wanzhou’s arrest in Canada to extradite her to the USA, Canada stuck to its guns. Even after two Canadians were taken hostage by the Chinese government in a retaliatory arrest, Meng stayed under arrest with her extradition going forward, while the rest of the world (including Modi’s India) politely looked the other way rather than angering China.
India cannot possibly claim they couldn’t have gotten results from Canada if they’d gone through the legal system.
Why would India get in the way of China - Canada diplomatic relations.
India is claiming that, Kanishka bombing is a great read for Canadians who have forgotten their history and who actually they are shielding.
Hardeep Singh Nijjar was born 11 October 1977.
Air India Flight 182 was bombed 23 June 1985.
How are they related?
I am talking about history and how it tends to repeat if you don’t correct the mistakes, the mistake Canadian Govt. is making again by shielding these terrorists, just because they need NDPs support to keep their govt running and it’s a shame how bais plays into it, just because you don’t want to believe violent separatists are terrorists it doesn’t mean they aren’t.
I’d say the violent ones here were the Indian government who were alleged here to have had a Canadian citizen assassinated on Canadian soil.
Why didn’t India go through legal means and extradite him?
Alleged is an important word here and India has already shared files with evidence to Canada in multiple individuals (including the one “alleged” to have been assassinated). Why is Canada not supporting India in these investigations? just because it needs NDPs support to keep in power, Canada is siding with terrorists and their sponsors.
India was not trying to get Nijjar back when he was killed and that NDP angle is hilarious. Is that what Modi is doing?
India’s reaction to being called out is telling the whole world that they are as guilty as Canada and their allies say they are.
Canada did not stick to any kind of guns, but was ordered by USA to kidnap Huawei CEO’s daughter, so that Trump could play around with China using Huawei as a “bargaining chip”. The way Meng was house arrested on airport by RCMP for about 350 days, despite Huawei having no faults regarding HSBC’s transactions with Iran, only tells Canada is like a little chained puppy for USA.
Please show us on this doll where this bad incident hurt you
Sorry for hurting you with facts.
The Huawei situation riles me up as having been someone who loved Huawei pushing the smartphone industry for many years, to where we are now, with a feature-rich camera app with timelapse, first to invent night mode, 40+ MP camera sensors, pixel binning tech, 10x periscope zoom, 4000+ mAh batteries in flagships, focus on large camera sensor size, amazing back designs and numerous other things they have done. If not for them, these other companies would have kept us stuck to 2 shitty cameras, 3000 mAh battery and subpar computational camera processing. Even Pixel’s HDR+ and Night Sight were highly “influenced” and derivative of Huawei’s innovations.
Well, this is one of the creepier capitalist product monologues I’ve seen in a while.
another comment closer to the enshittified dystopia
Talking about innovation is not fanboyism.
If you think this is fanboy defense, you can freely assume that since you are deluded. Each of those things I mentioned have carried over to every phonemaker over the years, and have received praise from everyone. Talking about innovations is not fanboyism.
Yeah it exists for the sake of it.
It’s too early to confirm who did it, but it looks like it just happened again:
https://lemmy.ca/post/5829102
An alleged (edit: alleged by India) Khalistani terrorist was just murdered in his home in Winnepeg.
And all the Indian news outlets are claiming the guy was a gangster and that this was a gang-related shooting. Meanwhile the local Winnipeg police are just like “Uh, we have no evidence on that as of yet and have made no statements about that, where the frick are you getting this claim from?”
Yeah, I updated the headline to make it clear that the allegations were by India, because people were rightly pointing out that “alleged Khalistani terrorist” was giving them too much credit.
India’s getting blatant and nobody cares because of China.
Nobody deserves death, however much me way wish it. Humans dole it out in spades, though.
I respectfully disagree for rare cases. Some people are just plain evil, according to modern sensibilities.
I disagree but I do like this Gandalf quote, whether they deserve it or not it’s not our call:
“Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement”
That’s more or less my point. We’re all flawed. I’m just questioning our ability to be self regulating. I’m also questioning the use of the word “deserve.”
Modi isn’t exactly subtle about anything.
e: modi not MIDI
But Russia told them they did it all the time and nothing ever came of it.