President Biden’s reelection campaign has placed a large ad buy on the Fox News website ahead of Wednesday night’s first GOP primary debate, using the event to promote abortion rights m…
I’m not sure this is a good idea. Surely this sort of messaging is better aimed at independants / floating voters? You’d think that any republicans who see this are going to go straight into “REEEEE DEMONCRATS SEE WHAT THEY DO THEY KILL BABIES REEEEE” mode and dig deeper into their mindset.
Eh—everyone already knows where Biden stands on abortion. Avoiding the issue suggests that he’s embarrassed or ashamed of his position—it concedes the moral high ground to the Republicans.
Lots of voters prefer a confident candidate to one who agrees with them on everything.
Mmm. Makes sense I guess, you’re saying the intent of these ads is less to appeal to rep voters, but more to show dem voters that Biden is serious about codifying Roe?
I think it’s aimed at swing voters—the kind who voted for both Obama and Trump.
They’re generally lukewarm on the issues, but are attracted to candidates who seem self-assured and confident. The candidates in the debate are likely to be anything but, given their fear of saying anything that might anger Trump’s core voters—so this ad will give viewers an obvious contrast.
Well whatever the intent; I hope it works as intended. We’re having a similar moment here (UK) where we have a reasonable opposition to the godawful conservative party, he’s objectively a better choice yet people on the far left are convinced he’s the devil and go around convincing people not to vote for him. Whereas the reality is, he has to walk a tightrope fighting media bias and can’t be the Ultra Woke Leftie Warrior they want him to be.
Currently polling at 50% vs 25% though, so I have a small sliver of hope that things will change next year.
The ad isn’t aimed to convert anyone, it’s meant to feed into the social media narrative. Entrenched Republicans aren’t changing their vote, but it could spark interest in younger voters who don’t go to Fox News but read about the campaign.
It’s definitely a good idea. The left has been failing to mock the right for far too long. The only thing that will really stop that movement is if it’s cringey and an embarrassment to be a part of it. It also shows their attacks and strategies as weaks., since dark Brandon started as a rightwing meme.
There are plenty of radical centrists who will watch this shit because they feel obligated to hear out fascists just in case one of them actually manages to form a cogent thought.
These are the goldfish voters. If they do not have their knowledge and beliefs reaffirmed every 27 seconds, they revert to a blank political slate. The GOP has figured it out - these people are the reason why “bumper sticker politics” is so effective. The goldfish phenomenon perfectly explains every paradox and confounding effect in the history of political odds-making - that there is a shockingly large contingent of voters out there whose entire political identity is effectively defined by the most recent political message they attentively received.
I was like 50/50 on voting for Biden before i saw this. Even though this ad is definetly not ideated by Biden (for sure just a campaign manager or a 20 year old intern), standing up for abortion rights front and center on fox will likely make it more so like an 80/20 if I actually like the outcome of it. Will probably be one of the more memorable things from his career for me.
Brilliant, I’m aware that I have resting sarcastic voice even when typing so I mean this genuinely… I’m glad this is having an effect like this on a voter like yourself.
I’m not from USA but feel I have a dog in the fight because what happens over in your country almost always leaks out and affects politics in mine (UK). Conservative party are definitely modelling republican tactics atm.
That’s because the origin isn’t “autistic screeching”. It’s the screaming frog. The connection to “autistic screeching” was a later misassociation popularized on Reddit.
I wasn’t talking about you with my comment about jumping down each others throat.
A lot of people have no clue that the origin is “autistic screeching.”
This is just objectively wrong, and thus it’s not likely that this is the reason it means anything.
My only point was that interpretations vary, so getting bent out of shape and acting like your interpretation is the only interpretation is a shittt thing to do.
I’ve always read ‘reeee’ like a pig squeel, which I think fits and doesn’t put down any demographic, except pigs, and they don’t know any better which is why it works.
That sounds fantastic, until you realize you’re all there because of your shared delusion that you individually know better and understand more than everyone around you. Then you turn on each other, and then hell is functioning as intended.
Ignoring the whole “being offended for people who likely don’t appreciate someone being offended on their behalf” part, how does one expect to gain acceptance of their ideas by being an absolute dickhead to them?
Even if you have the greatest idea of all time, telling someone to implement it and then calling them a piece of shit leaves people very disinclined to implement anything they’ve said. They’ll be stuck on ‘man that person was a real asshole. Fuck them and whatever bullshit they were talking about’
As for the part we’ve ignored, I honestly thought we were done with that whole thing? That we moved on to actually trying to help people rather than virtual signal about helping? FFS
If you actually want to help people, then have you considered donating to charities for those causes? If you’re low on funds, that’s fine, you can volunteer time to help out. The charity runners would really appreciate it and it would go so much farther than this faux moral outrage tactic.
It means alot more to me when a person who would actually get offended by something asks that people not say said offensive thing (in a personal setting, work is work) than a person who would not get offended.
For instance, I’m a Jew and I ask people not to call me white because I’m Jewish, not white. Seems reasonable a Jew asking people not do to a thing that’s offensive to Jews.
But if I were white and asked people “hey don’t call Jews white” well who the fuck am I to be asking that? I’m not a Jew (impacted person) nor have I identified myself to have any authority in the matter. I’m just a dude doing a thing.
To add to that we have the second problem. How the person went about it. They were an asshole in their request. You don’t win over hearts and minds by being a dick, no matter how much of a dick those hearts and minds were.
Said person decided to double down on being a dick leaving me entirely uninterested in enacting any changes they’ve requested. So from my perspective
the person is virtual signalling which is shown in the article I linked, has historically proven to not have a positive impact.
the person is being an asshole
Why should I care about their opinion?
Yours on the other hand, was in a respectful of upset manner and is coming from an impacted individual. You carry weight and you’ve been respectful in doing so.
I’m hopeful I’ve shown you the same respect in my response.
It’s the “…being a jerk” part that is, initially, unnecessary. If they aren’t informed, there is no intent. If they don’t respond well to the initial raw/basic info, that’s a different conversation.
The incredible irony of calling me out for using a ‘slur’ while every comment they make has the word ‘slut’ above it. Beautiful, thanks for pointing it out.
You’ve confused me. I think you’re confused also, I was the one who made the initial comment that they called out. It’s Bleeping Lobster all the way down. I don’t have an ‘alt account’ (though I have registered on Sopuli.xyz for those brief moments when .world is down)
I’m autistic, quite partial to an occasional reeeee myself, so I think I’ll keep using it, but I respect that you find it uncomfortable. FWIW I don’t use retarded as an insult these days.
I genuinely don’t give a shit what you think of me, I have a clinical diagnosis of autism L1 and I’ll speak how I choose. You’re literally telling off someone with autism for mocking autism, to go with your analogy, I bet you actually do go around telling black people not to use the n-word.
To quote you: do better. Find a more constructive use for your time.
Conflating someone’s genuine medical diagnosis with claiming you’re a navy seal / false honour is disgusting, you steamrollered in here to have a pop at someone and have just revealed that you yourself are a shithead. You’re so focussed on being right, you’ve forgotten the human behind these ‘faceless individuals’.
Getting an official diagnosis was a lengthy, difficult process in my country. You claim to care about people with autism yet you mock me for speaking about having it. You’re not the kind person you think you are.
Yeah this is the worst kind of example of behavior. A person who is themselves extremely offensive towards others but sees themselves as a beacon of moral superiority. It’s actually borderline dangerous and I feel like more and more people are bevaving like this.
Where did you draw the connection that “reee” has anything to do with autism? Like most things in reality outside of TikTok, It has absolutely nothing to do with autism. Nobody has to change their behavior simply because someone misinterprets something. If it is genuinely punching down, then sure I get it, but this isn’t an example of that. It’s just a screeching angry frog sound meant to depict people overreacting about anything.
REEEEEEE" is an onomatopoeic expression of intense rage or frustration typically associated with the Angry Pepe character and used by those who frequent the /r9k/ board on 4chan. The expression is often associated with the Autistic Screeching meme, however it is intended to represent the unique croak produced by several species of frogs when agitated.
You don’t personally get to change the definition for something in your own head and then get mad at everyone else for not going along with your interpretation. That’s not how reality works and all you’re doing in the process is just pissing people off.
I’m not sure this is a good idea. Surely this sort of messaging is better aimed at independants / floating voters? You’d think that any republicans who see this are going to go straight into “REEEEE DEMONCRATS SEE WHAT THEY DO THEY KILL BABIES REEEEE” mode and dig deeper into their mindset.
Eh—everyone already knows where Biden stands on abortion. Avoiding the issue suggests that he’s embarrassed or ashamed of his position—it concedes the moral high ground to the Republicans.
Lots of voters prefer a confident candidate to one who agrees with them on everything.
Mmm. Makes sense I guess, you’re saying the intent of these ads is less to appeal to rep voters, but more to show dem voters that Biden is serious about codifying Roe?
I think it’s aimed at swing voters—the kind who voted for both Obama and Trump.
They’re generally lukewarm on the issues, but are attracted to candidates who seem self-assured and confident. The candidates in the debate are likely to be anything but, given their fear of saying anything that might anger Trump’s core voters—so this ad will give viewers an obvious contrast.
Well whatever the intent; I hope it works as intended. We’re having a similar moment here (UK) where we have a reasonable opposition to the godawful conservative party, he’s objectively a better choice yet people on the far left are convinced he’s the devil and go around convincing people not to vote for him. Whereas the reality is, he has to walk a tightrope fighting media bias and can’t be the Ultra Woke Leftie Warrior they want him to be.
Currently polling at 50% vs 25% though, so I have a small sliver of hope that things will change next year.
The ad isn’t aimed to convert anyone, it’s meant to feed into the social media narrative. Entrenched Republicans aren’t changing their vote, but it could spark interest in younger voters who don’t go to Fox News but read about the campaign.
It’s definitely a good idea. The left has been failing to mock the right for far too long. The only thing that will really stop that movement is if it’s cringey and an embarrassment to be a part of it. It also shows their attacks and strategies as weaks., since dark Brandon started as a rightwing meme.
There are plenty of radical centrists who will watch this shit because they feel obligated to hear out fascists just in case one of them actually manages to form a cogent thought.
These are the goldfish voters. If they do not have their knowledge and beliefs reaffirmed every 27 seconds, they revert to a blank political slate. The GOP has figured it out - these people are the reason why “bumper sticker politics” is so effective. The goldfish phenomenon perfectly explains every paradox and confounding effect in the history of political odds-making - that there is a shockingly large contingent of voters out there whose entire political identity is effectively defined by the most recent political message they attentively received.
I was like 50/50 on voting for Biden before i saw this. Even though this ad is definetly not ideated by Biden (for sure just a campaign manager or a 20 year old intern), standing up for abortion rights front and center on fox will likely make it more so like an 80/20 if I actually like the outcome of it. Will probably be one of the more memorable things from his career for me.
Brilliant, I’m aware that I have resting sarcastic voice even when typing so I mean this genuinely… I’m glad this is having an effect like this on a voter like yourself.
I’m not from USA but feel I have a dog in the fight because what happens over in your country almost always leaks out and affects politics in mine (UK). Conservative party are definitely modelling republican tactics atm.
Yeah, this ad campaign seems rather counter-intuitive if it’s aimed at swaying people.
Why do you think Fox News would run them otherwise?
Do you think for some reason that they don’t already do that pretty much constantly?
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That’s because the origin isn’t “autistic screeching”. It’s the screaming frog. The connection to “autistic screeching” was a later misassociation popularized on Reddit.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reeeeeee
People should be encouraging each other to be better people, but jumping down a randoms throat in self-righteous vigor is fucked up.
Reddit is like Adam… ruins everything
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I wasn’t talking about you with my comment about jumping down each others throat.
This is just objectively wrong, and thus it’s not likely that this is the reason it means anything.
My only point was that interpretations vary, so getting bent out of shape and acting like your interpretation is the only interpretation is a shittt thing to do.
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I’ve always read ‘reeee’ like a pig squeel, which I think fits and doesn’t put down any demographic, except pigs, and they don’t know any better which is why it works.
I can see below that the actual origin is a screaming frog, interesting.
Yeah that puzzle slut is just wrong. It’s making fun of people getting overly angry about something and isn’t punching down at any group whatsoever.
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So your default assumption is they are being assholes therefore you are justified in also being an asshole?
Have you heard of the road to hell? It’s paved with good intentions like your own.
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That sounds fantastic, until you realize you’re all there because of your shared delusion that you individually know better and understand more than everyone around you. Then you turn on each other, and then hell is functioning as intended.
Tbh that’s not even the issue I have.
Ignoring the whole “being offended for people who likely don’t appreciate someone being offended on their behalf” part, how does one expect to gain acceptance of their ideas by being an absolute dickhead to them?
Even if you have the greatest idea of all time, telling someone to implement it and then calling them a piece of shit leaves people very disinclined to implement anything they’ve said. They’ll be stuck on ‘man that person was a real asshole. Fuck them and whatever bullshit they were talking about’
As for the part we’ve ignored, I honestly thought we were done with that whole thing? That we moved on to actually trying to help people rather than virtual signal about helping? FFS
Let me ask you, have you actually met anyone differently abled who explicitly asked you “I wish you’d be offended on my behalf to random people?”
I’m kinda doubting you have mostly because the last couple of times I’ve seen virtual signalling like this, the groups involved found it demeaning, insulting and harmful. https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanharmeling/2023/01/16/virtue-signaling-on-race-relations-only-hurts-the-cause/
If you actually want to help people, then have you considered donating to charities for those causes? If you’re low on funds, that’s fine, you can volunteer time to help out. The charity runners would really appreciate it and it would go so much farther than this faux moral outrage tactic.
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It means alot more to me when a person who would actually get offended by something asks that people not say said offensive thing (in a personal setting, work is work) than a person who would not get offended.
For instance, I’m a Jew and I ask people not to call me white because I’m Jewish, not white. Seems reasonable a Jew asking people not do to a thing that’s offensive to Jews.
But if I were white and asked people “hey don’t call Jews white” well who the fuck am I to be asking that? I’m not a Jew (impacted person) nor have I identified myself to have any authority in the matter. I’m just a dude doing a thing.
To add to that we have the second problem. How the person went about it. They were an asshole in their request. You don’t win over hearts and minds by being a dick, no matter how much of a dick those hearts and minds were.
Said person decided to double down on being a dick leaving me entirely uninterested in enacting any changes they’ve requested. So from my perspective
Why should I care about their opinion?
Yours on the other hand, was in a respectful of upset manner and is coming from an impacted individual. You carry weight and you’ve been respectful in doing so.
I’m hopeful I’ve shown you the same respect in my response.
It’s the “…being a jerk” part that is, initially, unnecessary. If they aren’t informed, there is no intent. If they don’t respond well to the initial raw/basic info, that’s a different conversation.
Well said, user Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever
The incredible irony of calling me out for using a ‘slur’ while every comment they make has the word ‘slut’ above it. Beautiful, thanks for pointing it out.
Is this your alt-account?Edit: I think you meant to write “calling them out” instead of “calling me out.”Edit 2: Understood.
You’ve confused me. I think you’re confused also, I was the one who made the initial comment that they called out. It’s Bleeping Lobster all the way down. I don’t have an ‘alt account’ (though I have registered on Sopuli.xyz for those brief moments when .world is down)
I got it now. Sorry. Brainfart. Exactly what you said. “You’re using slurs! How dare you!!” - Sincerely, Puzzle_Sluts.
Except you are incorrect and trying to marginalize people who nobody else was trying to marginalize. :(
You acting like an authority is the issue here.
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I’m autistic, quite partial to an occasional reeeee myself, so I think I’ll keep using it, but I respect that you find it uncomfortable. FWIW I don’t use retarded as an insult these days.
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I genuinely don’t give a shit what you think of me, I have a clinical diagnosis of autism L1 and I’ll speak how I choose. You’re literally telling off someone with autism for mocking autism, to go with your analogy, I bet you actually do go around telling black people not to use the n-word.
To quote you: do better. Find a more constructive use for your time.
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Conflating someone’s genuine medical diagnosis with claiming you’re a navy seal / false honour is disgusting, you steamrollered in here to have a pop at someone and have just revealed that you yourself are a shithead. You’re so focussed on being right, you’ve forgotten the human behind these ‘faceless individuals’.
Getting an official diagnosis was a lengthy, difficult process in my country. You claim to care about people with autism yet you mock me for speaking about having it. You’re not the kind person you think you are.
Yeah this is the worst kind of example of behavior. A person who is themselves extremely offensive towards others but sees themselves as a beacon of moral superiority. It’s actually borderline dangerous and I feel like more and more people are bevaving like this.
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Or you can just not be an asshole that makes assumptions
You’re clearly considered in the wrong here by the majority, take the L and learn something
Looks like that copy pasta
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Do yourself a favor and go outside.
Where did you draw the connection that “reee” has anything to do with autism? Like most things in reality outside of TikTok, It has absolutely nothing to do with autism. Nobody has to change their behavior simply because someone misinterprets something. If it is genuinely punching down, then sure I get it, but this isn’t an example of that. It’s just a screeching angry frog sound meant to depict people overreacting about anything.
Anyone who thinks you’re an asshole for saying “reeeeeee” is themselves an asshole, so fuck em
It’s not a slur you sensitive dipshit
While I immediately dismiss anyone saying “ree” this is ridiculous:
Do better? You need to know your memes better.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reeeeeee
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You don’t personally get to change the definition for something in your own head and then get mad at everyone else for not going along with your interpretation. That’s not how reality works and all you’re doing in the process is just pissing people off.
Gen Z in shambles