• lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      23·
      24 days ago

      This same idea was posted with this same meme template within the past day, right? I’m not having deja vu? I can’t find it anywhere.

        • spujbOPEnglish
          155·
          24 days ago

          Yeah it wasn’t really political so it was taken down. Spruced it up and reposted here. 👍

  • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
    443·
    24 days ago

    Kids these days and their AI accusations. Back in my day, we assumed people who disagreed with us were uninformed, stupid, or evil.

  • joenforcer@midwest.social
    5216·
    23 days ago

    Don’t normalize this shit.

    Opposing viewpoints are fine. Disingenuous viewpoints that conveniently show the egregious fallacies of that viewpoint and ignore them when pointed out deserve all the criticism they get.

    And we know what one specific viewpoint we’re talking about. Lemmy is so deeply infested with it now with the exact same bend that it’s a disgustingly obvious disinformation campaign and voter suppression tactic.

    Again, don’t normalize this shit.

    • Katrisia@lemm.ee
      122·
      23 days ago

      And we know what one specific viewpoint we’re talking about.

      Dang it! I’m always out of the loop.

      • VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world
        9·
        23 days ago

        As am I. I’m a bit curious as to which viewpoint they’re discussing.

        I don’t think it’s bad for people to be somewhat suspicious of bots/misinformation campaigns that occur online. We do know they occur.

        That said, I believe we should still try to communicate on the various media platforms in the event that there is in fact a human behind the screen.

            • nomous@lemmy.world
              21·
              23 days ago

              Old people’s vote is vastly more difficult to suppress. Old people go vote, the youth though? Just tell them shits fucked and their vote doesnt matter and they eagerly give up and sit home.

      • spujbOPEnglish
        62·
        23 days ago

        They are either lying or deeply overexposed to only one portion of the platform lol. While a lot of it has to do with US electoral stuff, that is far from the only context I have seen bot accusations thrown around. Seen it on some gaming-related communities, some vegan places for some reason? It might be fair to say the mindset stems from the anger of the political subs but that’s just a guess. (:

    • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      23 days ago

      The other important point to make:

      It’s normal to view wild ideas like troves of automated users with some skepticism. But consider: Foreign entities would likely have a huge incentive to destabilize domestic elections. If you were them, and had plenty of spare personnel, and A.I. resources…what would you do?

    • Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      178·
      23 days ago

      And we know what one specific viewpoint we’re talking about. Lemmy is so deeply infested with it now with the exact same bend that it’s a disgustingly obvious disinformation campaign and voter suppression tactic.

      You’re doing the thing in the meme

    • Juice@midwest.social
      92·
      23 days ago

      Mfs never heard the word epistemology.

      Sorry I legit don’t know who you are talking about

    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
      118·
      23 days ago

      People disagree with me Lemmy is deeply infested!!!

      You would enjoy reddit.com a lot more than this place. How about some r/worldnews?

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      67·
      23 days ago

      Disingenuous viewpoints that conveniently show the egregious fallacies of that viewpoint and ignore them when pointed out deserve all the criticism they get.

      Nice try, Russia. But I’m not falling for it.

      And we know what one specific viewpoint we’re talking about.

      turns to the camera conspiratorially

      Big wink

      Giant thumb pointed at Joe Biden

      Large okay symbol with other hand

      Thumbs up with penis

  • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
    354·
    24 days ago

    I can’t blame people for thinking others are bots, especially when they make cookie cutter comments identical to so many others in nature and content. We live in a world where people have invented bots which mimic human writing to a degree of accuracy most cannot tell apart from real humans. Some of us are bots, get used to it.

    • kernelle@lemmy.world
      131·
      24 days ago

      I definitely get why, but people have been paranoid of interacting with bots, shills or astroturfers for as long as the internet exists. Calling someone either of these without asking to elaborate on their comment is just adding to the polarisation and intolerance of our platforms.

      Often when I try to talk to people with wildly different opinions they just come back with those insults because “who can ever disagree with my opinion? They must be trolling.”

      So I definitely blame people for jumping to the wrong conclusions.

      • spujbOPEnglish
        93·
        24 days ago

        Yes there needs that be at least a little blame lmao. Cuz the corollary of “everyone that isn’t agreeing with me is [bot, troll, shill]” is that everyone that isn’t agreeing with you may be rightfully treated with spite and abuse.

        Which is generally… not good.

    • ekZepp@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      24 days ago

      Man, this is the best bot genetated comment i’ve read in a while. Which software did they use?

      • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
        41·
        22 days ago

        That’s call Simulation Theory. It unfortunately isn’t useful as a theory because the nature of your existence compared to one that is more or less real doesn’t have any impact on subjective value of reality or have any effect on decision-making.

    • Katrisia@lemm.ee
      3·
      23 days ago

      So… is our broken non-native English an advantage now (because one can tell we are real people)? Nice.

    • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
      52·
      24 days ago

      You make a valid point about the increasing difficulty in distinguishing between human and bot-generated content. The rise of sophisticated AI has indeed blurred these lines. However, it’s important to remember that not all similar or “cookie cutter” comments are the work of bots. Human behavior, especially online, often tends to follow patterns and trends, leading to similar expressions of opinion or emotion.

      While it’s wise to remain cautious and aware of the presence of bots, we shouldn’t jump to conclusions too quickly. Engaging thoughtfully and asking questions can help clarify whether we’re interacting with a person or a bot. Ultimately, fostering genuine connections and critical thinking are key in navigating this digital landscape.

      • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
        23·
        24 days ago

        TBH I don’t know if the risks of being an incorrect independently thinking human outweighs the risks of being manipulated by bots. Skepticism seems better of the available options. Sorry if that hurts some people’s feelings, but this is the internet.

            • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
              31·
              23 days ago

              I was gonna reveal the jig if you kept going for one more comment without calling it. Didn’t want to yank your chain too much.

              Though I do think I agree with what ChatGPT said, if I interpreted it correctly. I was kinda skimming.

              • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
                1·
                23 days ago

                Nobody cares mate. What you posted is your opinion, flawed logic and all. Maybe if you wrote your own comment it might not have been so shit.

        • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
          22·
          24 days ago

          I get where you’re coming from—skepticism is a reasonable stance given the circumstances. The risk of being misled by bots is real, and it’s crucial to approach online interactions with a critical eye. However, it’s also important to balance skepticism with an openness to genuine human engagement.

          While the internet can be a wild place, fostering a bit of trust and empathy can lead to more meaningful conversations and connections. We can stay cautious without becoming completely cynical. By asking questions and seeking deeper engagement, we can often tell apart genuine interactions from automated ones, while still maintaining our critical thinking skills.

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
    241·
    24 days ago

    Don’t forget to block them so that you never hear an opposing view again!

  • ekZepp@lemmy.worldEnglish
    279·
    24 days ago

    Honestly I don’t see all this hade and intolerance here on lemmy.world and i’ve been around since last year. Can you give me some context?

    • spujbOPEnglish
      293·
      24 days ago

      Actual context because the other comment (e: the prettybunnys one) is clearly showing some bias:

      !politicalmemes@lemmy.world is constantly in turmoil against itself regarding some US electoral stuff. About once per thread (no joke) an argument gets to a point where one person accuses the other of not being human because they just can’t fathom how different their positions are. This also spreads to other communities but I generally find !politicalmemes to be the primary source. (e: This also is common on .ml communities unless I am mistaken. I just am not exposed to that much since my instance does not federate with .ml.)

      (Disclaimer: while funny, don’t do this kind of attack without real evidence; it’s generally frowned on by mods as uncivil.)

        • spujbOPEnglish
          122·
          24 days ago

          Truly. Especially on platforms where we can’t see each other’s faces to remind each other we exist and might or might not have had coffee this morning.

          Not denying there are bots on here of course, there definitely are, just quite a few less than the average edgy political swearing session would lead you to believe.

      • SeveralAnts@lemmy.world
        41·
        24 days ago

        Really? That is kind of pleasing to hear to be honest. I only ever encountered echochamber comments any of the times I went on any political thread here, one sided anchoring and confirmation bias, so I stopped. I’m kind of happy to hear that there are multiple perspectives being discussed at all. Neat.

    • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
      1610·
      24 days ago

      Context:

      People with overt bias and deliberate messaging are being called out for it.

      Those people make posts like this.

      • proper@lemmy.world
        31·
        24 days ago

        had to scroll quite a bit to find this perspective. I’m on politics all the time, there really are a handful of “bad actors” who follow a clear agenda. yet I’ve never seen this “ur bot” response just thrown around haphazardly, rather directed at that very same handful of disingenuous propaganda posters.

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    131·
    23 days ago

    there is only one opinion, all of the other opinions about everything else are wrong. Only this one is correct.

    Don’t worry, i won’t tell you what opinion i’m talking about, because that would be another opinion, and it would be wrong, on account of the other one being the only correct one.

    • spujbOPEnglish
      81·
      24 days ago

      have a look around